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irrelevant 
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 Posted: January 06 2019 at 03:20 |
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Music is cheap. People are going to find a way to download it for free. If your music is first and foremost on Bandcamp, I'd say most are going to find it that way first.
I just think taking down streaming on your page is a useless move. They lost, you lost.
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Davesax1965
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Posted: January 06 2019 at 03:03 |
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"I don't imagine those websites have a ton of traffic since soulseek became the go-to. "
Eastern Europe, different audience. One site along had shifted £450 in downloads. These sites pop up like Whack a Mole ones, so if you have five sites on the boil at once, it becomes significant. Not really bothered about the money - just the principle, to be honest. Edited by Davesax1965 - January 06 2019 at 03:04 |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: January 06 2019 at 03:01 |
Well, I honestly couldn't care, any more. Given the fact that one site had given away hundreds of downloads for free, the conclusion I've come to is that the only people who listen to my stuff don't pay for it. A few do. I'm not interested in playing for freeloaders. It's nothing to do with the money, it's about people having a it of respect. I don't need fans who don't actually support anyone, they're not fans, but vultures. I'll just play with other musicians for my own amusement in future. Ask yourself this question: wouldn't you ? |
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Polymorphia
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Posted: January 05 2019 at 12:09 |
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I don't imagine those websites have a ton of traffic since soulseek became the go-to.
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irrelevant
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Posted: January 04 2019 at 21:01 |
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How are people going to discover your music?
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Davesax1965
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Posted: January 04 2019 at 05:15 |
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Pirated a third time in two months: I've removed all music from the Bandcamp page and the only way I'll do it now is as CD releases. Of course, these will also eventually be pirated, but bu88ered if I'm releasing music just to have it picked up by Eastern European free download sites again.
To be quite honest with you..... 90% of "fans" out there are not fans but vultures. To be quite honest, that is. |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: December 14 2018 at 09:32 |
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Pedro, thanks, but you are somewhat behind the conversation and more than a bit off - topic here.....
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moshkito
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Posted: December 13 2018 at 06:56 |
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... removed ... old music per Dave
Edited by moshkito - December 14 2018 at 19:04 |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: December 12 2018 at 10:14 |
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Mosh, Bandcamp haven't streamed anything. Someone's visited the site and used a ripper to get the music off it.
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moshkito
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Posted: December 12 2018 at 07:13 |
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Edited by moshkito - December 14 2018 at 19:03 |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: December 12 2018 at 06:39 |
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As a PS, I have some evidence that a forum member is behind this. The old graphics and part of a review were copied onto the download page. The page has now gone.
It's not someone from my Bandcamp profile, as the only Russian fans I have (1) merely downloaded a free copy of a song, but I do have an e-mail address for them. I'll inform the admins but suggest you all check the 2olega.ru site in case any of your music is in the progressive rock section. You'll have to translate the page. |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: December 12 2018 at 06:28 |
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Just got pirated AGAIN by a Russian website, 2olega.ru - I'd suggest folks here look it up as it has a lot of progressive rock on it. They'd given away 30 of my albums for free.
I sorted it out by doing a whois search to find the administrator and then sent them a mail which basically said I am the copyright owner, you have stolen music from me. You will remove all music from your website within 5 working days or I will inform your hosting provider or any search engines which you appear on that you are in breach of copyright. Typically they will remove you from their listings or revoke your site. I will not be entering into further conversation about the subject. Translated it into Russian, sent a dual language e-mail. Next morning - 404, page not found. Sorted out. |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: December 08 2018 at 04:29 |
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Most of my music IS actually free. The stuff which isn't is what I was talking about.
Anyone with half an ounce of intelligence can use a ripper to pull music from YouTube, Bandcamp, Soundcloud et al. By that logic, no one should put any music anywhere on the internet. I'm talking about scenarios where someone rips your entire musical catalogue - including pay for items - and then puts it on a website as a free download somewhere. |
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Posted: December 07 2018 at 21:54 |
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That's also great advice if you don't want people to buy your music.
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Posted: December 07 2018 at 15:19 |
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If you don't want people downloading your music for free, you probably shouldn't have it on Bandcamp either. If you can stream it, you can download it.
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Davesax1965
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Posted: December 07 2018 at 06:45 |
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Glad to say that reporting the site to Google works - it's disappeared from search records.
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Posted: October 31 2018 at 10:01 |
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Spasibo, gospodin Kat !
Eto na samom dele pol'skiye prestupniki. Spasibo za vashi kommentarii, da, ya govoryu po-russki, no vse eto bylo davno. Translated - "Thanks, they're actually Polish". ;-) |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: October 31 2018 at 09:23 |
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Hi fellas, irritating, isn't it ? Yes, no point playing Copyright Whack A Mole with Eastern European music thieves. If I get Google or Bandcamp or DCMA to ban them, they'll just change the URL and off we go again. As has been said, waste of time. Anyway, my idea is to produce long preview tracks on Bandcamp - released free - with a voice message in them pointing them back to the Bandcamp website where, if they like the track, they can buy the extended version on CD. That way, the pirate sites do me a favour instead. Pirate away, comrades. ;-)))))
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Posted: October 30 2018 at 23:17 |
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When I google my band name, I notice that there are a few websites that seem to be generated by bots pulling our videos off of YouTube and offering them as mp3 downloads. Not a huge concern for me since I doubt anyone's really looking for our music on those websites in the first place, and we have our music available for free on BandCamp anyways. Never really expected to make any significant money off of selling recorded music anyways - right now, the bigger priority is getting people to give our music a chance in the first place, because you can't sell albums or fill a venue if you don't have any fans.
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Posted: October 30 2018 at 09:20 |
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I've seen a recording of the Bandcamp stream of my album, but the quality is so low that I'm not worried and there's nothing I can do about it really.
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