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rushfan4
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I was inspired to check them out a number of years ago as a result of my obsession with the 7 degrees of separation with Yes. Given that a certain Rick Wakeman was once a member of the Strawbs I was obliged to check them out. I've enjoyed most of what I have heard from them but agree with others that the Hero and Heroines is probably my favorite. I have been enjoying the Ferryman's Curse quite a bit. It is nice to see nice things being written about a 2017 release from a classic band.
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SteveG
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^ Thanks Ken. I've found that It's harder to write a review of an album you don't like than of one that you do! So, I just tried to say as I felt it. I hope it worked!
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nice review of Blue Angel, Steve. I agree with you on what are the three best tracks, and that there isn't a whole lot else as highlights. But without Blue Angel there may not have been 4 legit studio albums since, all of which are better as you imply.
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kenethlevine
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^yeah that's a good one. I like all versions of the song. But my soft spot will always be the original on "ghosts". The way they ended this album with two marvelous ballads still stops me in my tracks. I mean who would do that? And the end of "you and I" with the keys of Hawken blends in perfectly with the faint choral start of Grace Darling.
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Squonk19
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Just listened to the version of 'Grace Darling' on the 'Greatest Hits Live' album that's been hiding in cassette form in my old cupboard for a few years. Rather good! Starts fairly acoustically, but very much extended with some excellent electric guitar and band work towards the end. A pleasant surprise! Recorded in 1990 and Mr Willoughby spreading his magic again, it seems. Chris Parren on keyboards doing a reasonable job too.
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Squonk19
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Really pleased 'Grace Darling' is getting some good feedback - the acoustic version on ' Old School Songs' has remained the definitive version for me - simple, endearing and heart-felt, although, as I say, the choir version has a different charm to it, too. Lo-Fi indeed on the live tracks - but in some respect that is where the charm lies too!
Brian Willoughby live with Dave and the Strawbs was always very special and it was live that his true talents shone. Nice to see this band get a good thread on PA - with contributors who clearly know their stuff! Keep it up, folks! |
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^ Parfait, thanks. Nearfest is indeed excellent and will have to get that one too.
and it looks like I'll have that Grace Darling tune stuck in my head for the next couple of days. |
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^^ aaah, nice. Grace Darling, what a fine song.
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kenethlevine
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I don't listen much to their live albums, but I heard sounded good. Certainly the material is taken from a wide sample of eras of the group
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kenethlevine
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time to listen to old school songs again perhaps? There are only a few samples on youtube but here goes I can't seem to find any of his lead guitar skills, as they were from the less known and distributed albums |
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SteveG
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I'm sure we're building him up to be more than he really is! But he's very, very good.
When I saw the acoustic tour with both Lambert and Willoughby, Lambert played his lead parts on Ghosts while Willoughby played the song's core melodies (Hawken's keyboard parts) before entwining for a bit here and there. Willoughby played the tricky Tears and Pavan parts. And that's all I can remember! Rats.
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Lots of interesting talk about this Willoughby dude.
I must admit that I'm pretty unfamiliar with his playing as I own close to nothing between Deep Cuts and The Broken-Hearted Bride. He's on the sublime Baroque & Roll album, which I own, but it's sometimes hard to tell who plays what on that one. Time to investigate further. I'm planning to get the live 'Lay Down with the Strawbs' eventually. Any impressions about it, guys? |
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I first came across Willoughby in some 80's reincarnation of the Strawbs that featured Cousins, a returning Tony Hooper, and if I'm not mistaken, Richard Hudson. Willoughby was stellar. When I came across the Old School Songs album I was, frankly, perplexed.
But I've seen him since and he continues to be stellar, both with Craig and on his solo instrumental albums.
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I had never even heard of Willoughby before that album and he immediately amazed me with his skill and style, especially on Grace Darling, The Battle, Hanging in the Gallery and Lay Down. But yes it's lo fi especially the live side
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SteveG
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Being a sound engineer, I found Old School Songs too lo fi for my tastes and Willoughby uninspired, but I did like the acoustic version of "The Battle". I believe that I only listened to the album once or twice many years ago and did a PA review from memory as I didn't really want to listen to it again.
I got the review 90% right but I'll never do that again as I learned that it can get you into big trouble!
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Squonk19
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^ Good points made. I also like 'Dragonfly' and often play it after the 'first' album. Mellow is a good description and as ever there are some strong songs. The ultimate compilation is still waiting to be made - if you could merge 'Selection' with 'Halcyon Days' - you are starting to get there (although I will confess that I quite like 'To Be Free' from 'Nomadness' for its amusing wordplay and enthusiasm which always brings a smile to my face). Dave Cousins brought out a free compilation of songs via the UK's Classic Rock Society and its Wonderous Stories magazine in Rotherham in the early 90s which had some interesting inclusions. From the 1980 concert (I found my old ticket, which is why I remember the date!) I know they played the title track to 'Heartbreak Hill' and said it was coming out fairly soon - but not sure what else they played. I know it impressed me at the time.
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kenethlevine
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^wow that gig supporting Heartbreak Hill must have been a rarity. It was soon after that I think Cousins left the band, they did a show or two without him (with Roy Hill as lead singer) and the disbanded entirely.
I agree about Old School Songs, particularly Willoughby's acoustic lead bits and 2 songs that had not yet appeared on any album as of that time, although they had a much older lineage, "the sweet "I've been my own worst friend" and the lively "You keep going your way". The latter actually appeared on an album by the Johnstons I believe, a decade or so before Old School Songs. For over 5 years "A Choice Selection of Strawbs" was the only way to get most of those tracks on CD. Next was Halcyon Days in very different UK and US versions, followed by most of the remasters. The big problem with Choice selection is it only has one track from the excellent "Ghosts" and one so-so track from "Nomadness". I'm more a fan of "Dragonfly" than the first album - it's more pastoral and the style is more English if you will, and actually is the missing link between the first album and "From the Witchwood". I know that most outside reviewers give Dragonfly a thumbs down, and it is indeed extremely mellow, but the cello is very predominant and Cousins sets some beautiful imagery to the music. |
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