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Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:54

Under the letter of the law, Rittenhouse was deemed to have protected himself. But what was he doing there in the first place? He was not a trained peace officer who knew how to engage rioters by himself. And why was he by himself at the time of the shooting? Would a trained police officer put himself in that position? He should not have been there is the bottom line, regardless of if his motives we're right or wrong.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:19

I'm thinking since Kyle is into shooting pedophiles, maybe he will shoot Gaetz and save the taxpayers some money in the form of investigative work, trial costs and jail time.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:47

He hopes Kyle will introduce him to some of his 'friends'.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:34

Speaking of pedophiles, Matt Gaetz wants baby face Kyle to work for him as an intern.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:28

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JD wrote:

Well let's get real on at least one FACT. There is no way that Kyle Rittenhouse knew or had any reason to believe that either of the people he killed had any criminal background. These are facts AFTER the fact.

To be clear...Pedophiles are the 5hit that 5hit wipes off its shoe. But that is a justification and not in any way a reason for what Kyle Rittenhouse did.

Those points aside, our right wing friends above just don't seem to be able to push the timeline back far enough to see that the real instigator in all this was Kyle Rittenhouse himself.

Yes it's true that Rittenhouse had no reason to believe that the folks he shot had criminal backgrounds. At one point, Rittenhouse was attacked by five people in 10 seconds. I'm sure Rittenhouse did not contemplate ( in Matrix Slow Motion) the criminal records of his attackers. Rittenhouse did not kill Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had anally raped five nine-year-old boys. Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum because-

1. Rosenbaum said to Rittenhouse, "If I catch you alone, I will kill you."

2. Rosenbaum attacked Rittenhouse.

3. Joshua Ziminski (Rosenbaum's friend) who accompanied Rosenbaum fired a gunshot as Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse.

4. Rosenbaum caught Rittenhouse. (The prosecution asked Joshua Ziminski... What made you think that Rosenbaum was thinking of killing Rittenhouse?) Joshua Ziminski replied, "Because Rosenbaum said ""F#ck You!" and he reached for Rittenhouses rifle."

5. Even Rosenbaum's friend testified that Rosenbaum planned on murdering Rittenhouse.

It's difficult to know what someone is thinking. That said, Rosenbaum had attempted suicide days before. Rosenbaum was let out of a mental institution the same day he died. Rosenbaum attempted to see his girlfriend earlier that day. She refused to see him. Minutes before Rosenbaum attacked Rittenhouse...Rosenbaum was screaming the N-word at armed with rifles- Black Live's Matter protesters. Rosenbaum was repeatedly screaming, " Shoot me n-word, shoot me n-word!"

How do I know this to be true? I've seen the videos of a very aggressive Rosenbaum screaming the above. You can see it too. Look it up. I don't don't want to post such evil stuff.

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So, what this tells me is that Rosenbaum suffered from mental illness. Yea, you're right, that's a good enough reason to kill him. What was I thinking?

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 06:20

JD wrote:

To be clear...Pedophiles are the 5hit that 5hit wipes off its shoe. But that is a justification and not in any way a reason for what Kyle Rittenhouse did.

Those points aside, our right wing friends above just don't seem to be able to push the timeline back far enough to see that the real instigator in all this was Kyle Rittenhouse himself.

1. Rosenbaum said to Rittenhouse, "If I catch you alone, I will kill you."

2. Rosenbaum attacked Rittenhouse.

3. Joshua Ziminski (Rosenbaum's friend) who accompanied Rosenbaum fired a gunshot as Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse.

5. Even Rosenbaum's friend testified that Rosenbaum planned on murdering Rittenhouse.

How do I know this to be true? I've seen the videos of a very aggressive Rosenbaum screaming the above. You can see it too. Look it up. I don't don't want to post such evil stuff.

The other two men who Rittenhouse shot, attempted to murder Rittenhouse. One with a illegal Glock, fully loaded with bullet chambered from three feet away. The Glock pointed at Rittenhouse's head. The other man was beating Rittenhouse's head with a skateboard. These two guys attacked Rittenhouse within three seconds of each other. It was mob attack.

It's true Rittenhouse did not know the criminal records of the men who attempted to murder him. However; Rittenhouse knew that the men were attempting to murder him. Did you know attempted murder is a crime? If Rittenhouse had not defended himself...Rittenhouse would be dead. If you cannot defend your life from a man about to shoot you in the head, at close range with a loaded gun....Then when?

JD claimed- "Those points aside, our right wing friends above just don't seem to be able to push the timeline back far enough to see that the real instigator in all this was Kyle Rittenhouse himself.

What is your evidence, JD? Enlighten us, JD. Push the timeline back and provide us with evidence that Kyle Rittenhouse was the real instigator. You should have offered your services to the prosecution, because the prosecution failed to prove that Rittenhouse instigated or provoked the attacks.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - November 24 2021 at 07:35

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:52

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^ Ah, our right-wing sociopaths have chimed in. Interesting that supporters of treason would also support a 17 year-old idiot with a rifle. Makes sense, I suppose.

What evidence do you have that we're right-wing ( I've said multiple times on this thread that I have not voted republican ever.) I support a living wage, student loan forgiveness, and Single Payer Medical Care for All. The only Right wing things I support are free speech and right to defend yourself if your life has been threatened. In other words, the First and Second admendments.

What evidence do you have that Cosmic or myself are sociopaths? I don't think Atavachon knows what a sociopath is. Rosenbaum ( the pedophile) was a sociopath. In fact he was let out of a mental institution the morning of his death. Sociopaths usually have an arrest record. I've never committed a crime. Never been arrested. I've never missed a day at work. I've never been late to work.

What evidence do you have that anybody on this thread is a supporter of treason? You know that treason is punishable by death? I love Americans so much that I dedicated my life to helping Americans in need. That's the reason I'm a nurse. That's the reason I volunteer my time (as a nurse) once a month. Is that what a sociopath does?

When people cannot debate an argument, they turn to personal insults. Rise above the insults Atavachon and make a logical argument. If you think Rittenhouse was guilty, make your argument. If you think anybody on this thread is a sociopath...please supply evidence. Tell us the definition of a sociopath and make your argument that Cosmic or myself fit the definition. Enlighten us Atavachon! Wink

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:40

To be clear...Pedophiles are the 5hit that 5hit wipes off its shoe. But that is a justification and not in any way a reason for what Kyle Rittenhouse did.

Those points aside, our right wing friends above just don't seem to be able to push the timeline back far enough to see that the real instigator in all this was Kyle Rittenhouse himself.

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Posted: November 23 2021 at 21:52

^ Ah, our right-wing sociopaths have chimed in. Interesting that supporters of treason would also support a 17 year-old idiot with a rifle. Makes sense, I suppose.

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Posted: November 23 2021 at 19:37

After reviewing some videos, regardless of the assailants’ criminal records it should have been an open and shut case. It was clearly self-defense…

Rosenbaum should not have been shot and killed. He shouldn’t have been there; he should have been behind bars. However, I will drink to one less pedophile in the world.

Kyle Rittenhouse was lucky; the young lad could have been hospitalized or killed. Are his assailants going to be charged?

It’s hard to tell from the video if Kyle meant to shoot Grosskretz in the arm. This would have been a mistake, in a situation like that you don’t aim to injure. For survival, the threat needs to be neutralized; the predator needs to be made nonfunctional.

All in all things worked out… Next time i’m out drinking I may have to order a Rittenhouse!

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Posted: November 23 2021 at 15:15

timothy leary wrote:

Demonizing the victims? So if someone has been convicted of a crime it is okay too shoot them?

Of course not. However; when the video's plainly shows all three criminals chasing Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse ran away from them. Threatening Rittenhouse with words like (Rosenbaum) "When I catch you alone, I will kill you!" Then chasing Rittenhouse down, catching him, and grabbing for Rittenhouse's rifle...Or beating Rittenhouse with a skateboard on the head, or pointing a loaded Glock automatic at Rittenhouse's head are criminal activities. Deadly criminal activities.

So you support pedophile's anal raping 9 year-old boys? Do you support men strangling women? That's what the people you call "victims" did. The last thing the three criminals did was attempt to murder Rittenhouse. They died like they lived. The pedophile died reaching for a minor.

Maybe you should watch the videos before you spout opinions, Timothy Leary?

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Posted: November 23 2021 at 14:30

Demonizing the victims? So if someone has been convicted of a crime it is okay too shoot them?

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Posted: November 22 2021 at 14:36

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While it was self defense only after going looking for trouble.

Not really. I watched all the videos and I saw eight hours of the trial. I advise looking at the videos. Your eyes won't lie. 17-year-old boyscout Kyle Rittenhouse was videotaped providing medical care to at least two people and pushing a burning garbage dumpster away from gasoline tanks. Then he was attacked.

1. The first person that Rittenhouse shot was a pedophile ( Rosenbaum) who had orally and anally raped 5 boys. He had been in out of Prison continually from 2002- till recently. The morning before the riot, he'd been let out of a mental institution. Minutes before chasing Rittenhouse's down, Rosenbaum was caught on video screaming the N-word at BLM people, swinging a chain through the air, and begging people to shoot him. A man who accompanied the pedophile fired the first shot. He shot a gun while Rittenhouse was running away from the pedophile. The pedophile man (Rosenbaum) caught Rittenhouse (again verbally threatened Rittenhouse's life as he grabbed for the barrel of Rittenhouse's Rifle.) Rittenhouse shot and killed him.

2. Screams of (Cranium the boy!) rang throughout the mob, as Rittenhouse ran toward police lines to give himself up. Rittenhouse was hit in his head from behind. Rittenhouse fell on to his back and butt. While on his back, A 10-year career criminal jump kicked Rittenhouse in the head. The prosecution hid this man's identity until after the trial. Jump-kick man told the prosecution that we would testify for them, if the prosecution would drop all the charges that they had against Jump-kick man. The prosecution said no and hid the fact that they knew his identity from Defense discovery.

Immediately after jump-kick man kicked Rittenhouse in the head, another man- Huber, hit Rittenhouse twice in the head with a skateboard. Huber was about to hit Rittenhouse a third time when Rittenhouse shot and killed him. Skateboard man (Huber) was a criminal who was found guilty of a felony for strangulation, suffocation, and domestic abuse. He was also convicted in other cases of felony false imprisonment with a dangerous weapon, a different domestic abuse case. He also attacked his brother with a butcher knife.

3. Another man came at Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse pointed the rifle at him. The man raised his hands and Rittenhouse did NOT fire. That man is alive and well today.

Another man ( Grosskreutz) ran at Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse, still on his back/butt pointed the rifle at Grosskreutz. Grosskreutz raised his hands. Rittenhouse did NOT shoot. Quickly, Grosskreutz pulled a loaded handgun from his pant's back waistband, rushed Rittenhouse, pointed the handgun at Rittenhouse's head. Rittenhouse shot the gun arm of the man in the biceps. Everybody stopped attacking Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse went to the police to give up. Under oath, Grosskreutz admitted that Kyle did not shoot him until he had pointed the loaded handgun at Kyles head. The confession was so damning to the prosecution that the prosecutor buried his face into his hands.

After Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum and ran toward police lines to give himself up... On the way to the police, Rittenhouse was attacked by five people in a span of 10 seconds.

1. Man who hit Rittenhouse in head, thus causing Rittenhouse to fall down to his back/butt.

2. Jump kick man kicked Rittenhouse in head

3. Man who advanced on Rittenhouse, then man raised hands and retreated. Rittenhouse pointed gun, but did not fire.

4. Huber- hit Rittenhouse twice in head with skateboard and then was shot by Rittenhouse.

5. Grosskreutz advanced on Rittenhouse, than raised hands , and Rittenhouse did NOT fire rifle. But then Grosskreutz quickly advanced again Rittenhouse, while pulling illegal firearm from small of back-waistband, pointed loaded handgun at Rittenhouse's head, and Rittenhouse shot Grosskreutz's gun arm bicep.

Speaking of Grosskreutz...he had prior convictions for unauthorized use of a firearm while intoxicated. Since Rittenhouse shot his arm, Grosskreutz had another felony conviction expunged from his record. He also had been convicted for prowling, secretly videotaping private vehicles, and numerous misdemeanors. Grosskreutz concealed carry license had been revoked. It was illegal for Grosskreutz to carry the gun that he pointed at Rittenhouse's head.

Every person who attacked Rittenhouse had multiple convictions. Before that night, Rittenhouse had never been arrested. The duration of the entire incident took just over 3 minutes. From the time Rittenhouse was chased by the pedophile Rosenbaum, shot him, thru the 2nd and 3rd self-defense shootings, till Rittenhouse attempted to turn himself in to the police took a little over three minutes. The police told Kyle to go home.

The Jury found Rittenhouse not guilty on All counts. Watch the videos. The entire event is on Video. Your eyes don't lie.

These videos have been available since the day after the Rittenhouse self-defense shootings. The media chose to lie the entire time about Rittenhouse. The media called the shooting, "white supremist shootings" so often that many people thought Rittenhouse had killed three black people, instead of shooting three white people. The media lied about Rittenhouse crossing state line's illegally, they lied about the rifle, they lied about Rittenhouse's history, family, everything. The Media lied about the criminals who chased Kyle down, attempting to kill Kyle. The media portrayed the criminals as heroes and Kyle as a white supremist monster and member of a militia. All lies. Biden repeated the lies.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - November 23 2021 at 07:26

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Posted: November 22 2021 at 13:20

While it was self defense only after going looking for trouble.

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Posted: November 22 2021 at 12:01

I've invested very little time on the trial and could be wrong, but i do agree with the verdict. From the couple of short videos that I saw it appeared to be self-defense. Personally, i don't subscribe to the notion of "self defense" but that's an entirely different discussion.

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Posted: November 22 2021 at 11:09

WOW...schooled !

Someone's been watching closing arguments. LOL

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Posted: November 22 2021 at 10:41

Lewian wrote:

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I am surprised there have been no comments about the outcome of the Rittenhouse trial.

What surprises me is any "I'm surprised that XXX had not yet been mentioned" posting. Why not just mention it yourself (obviously you haven't done that yet so you are apparently surprised by your own behaviour) and say what you have to say about it?

Touché.