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Poll Question: Who's the most influential artist here on PA?
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I'll be around, unless I buy it of course or Raff finally gets tired of my bullsh*t and sticks with that knife she always threatens me with (gotta love Italians!) haha, but the organizers are very good about putting out the information. It has been the Columbus Day weekend the last two years and am quite sure it will be again next year.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

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And thank you so much for one more great reference that I just happen to read here in the PA Forum: Tom Brislin! God Damned ! How I wish I was there at that NJ Proghouse !...
 


He's been there the last two years, and absolute sweetheart of a man and an amazing talent.  I'm sure he'll be back next year. If you can make it, look for me (the strangely out place 'beast' hanging with a ravishing Italian beauty) and I'll buy first round and by the time we're finished we'll serenade Necromonkey with calls for an ELP encore hahah
 
Thank you again micky, and for sure it would be a great pleasure to meet you, I'll be there! Oh yeah, I will be there!
 
P.S.: Necromonkey - don't know this song, I will have to improvise hahahah...
 


awesome!!  Keep an eye out for tickets and reserve the hotel early,  I suspect next year will near a full house. Everyone (bands and people like us from out of town) stays at the same hotel so that is a a nice social aspect but it is close to NYC and the freeway so can book up quickly.

As far as Necromonkey. A band.  Awesome stuff man.  Let me plug my wife again. She loves that!!

http://progmistress.com/2014/05/07/necromonkey-a-glimpse-of-possible-endings-2014/


You'll love them. We saw them at Progday, close enough it seemed to reach out and touch them as they played. Very intimate setting and the NJ Proghouse is perhaps even moreso.  Plus it is a good excuse to meet Mathias if you have not. Especially if one isn't particularly shy. Or even if, as I am in real life.  Another really sweet and approachable person to shoot the bull with. It is amazing and great to see how genuinely nice and approachable these musicians are. Raff and I have actually become quite close to a number we first met online then cemented in face to face.
 
It would be awesome indeed! I'm already fancing just one year earlier... well so I hope because of my 'holy' vacations next year, it would be fantastic!, btw it would be my very first time there, in NJ and NYC, really nice to know the details micky.
 
Thanks for the link! I'll check their music out as soon as I can, glad to know that about Mathias, it speaks great for a musician and I think it should always be an inherent characteristic of the GREAT musicians.
 


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Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

 
And thank you so much for one more great reference that I just happen to read here in the PA Forum: Tom Brislin! God Damned ! How I wish I was there at that NJ Proghouse !...
 


He's been there the last two years, and absolute sweetheart of a man and an amazing talent.  I'm sure he'll be back next year. If you can make it, look for me (the strangely out place 'beast' hanging with a ravishing Italian beauty) and I'll buy first round and by the time we're finished we'll serenade Necromonkey with calls for an ELP encore hahah
 
Thank you again micky, and for sure it would be a great pleasure to meet you, I'll be there! Oh yeah, I will be there!
 
P.S.: Necromonkey - don't know this song, I will have to improvise hahahah...
 


awesome!!  Keep an eye out for tickets and reserve the hotel early,  I suspect next year will near a full house. Everyone (bands and people like us from out of town) stays at the same hotel so that is a a nice social aspect but it is close to NYC and the freeway so can book up quickly.

As far as Necromonkey. A band.  Awesome stuff man.  Let me plug my wife again. She loves that!!

http://progmistress.com/2014/05/07/necromonkey-a-glimpse-of-possible-endings-2014/


You'll love them. We saw them at Progday, close enough it seemed to reach out and touch them as they played. Very intimate setting and the NJ Proghouse is perhaps even moreso.  Plus it is a good excuse to meet Mathias if you have not. Especially if one isn't particularly shy. Or even if, as I am in real life.  Another really sweet and approachable person to shoot the bull with. It is amazing and great to see how genuinely nice and approachable these musicians are. Raff and I have actually become quite close to a number we first met online then cemented in face to face.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

 
And thank you so much for one more great reference that I just happen to read here in the PA Forum: Tom Brislin! God Damned ! How I wish I was there at that NJ Proghouse !...
 


He's been there the last two years, and absolute sweetheart of a man and an amazing talent.  I'm sure he'll be back next year. If you can make it, look for me (the strangely out place 'beast' hanging with a ravishing Italian beauty) and I'll buy first round and by the time we're finished we'll serenade Necromonkey with calls for an ELP encore hahah
 
Thank you again micky, and for sure it would be a great pleasure to meet you, I'll be there! Oh yeah, I will be there!
 
P.S.: Necromonkey - don't know this song, I will have to improvise hahahah...
 


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^ Cool to see you around Micky


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Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

 
And thank you so much for one more great reference that I just happen to read here in the PA Forum: Tom Brislin! God Damned ! How I wish I was there at that NJ Proghouse !...
 


He's been there the last two years, and absolute sweetheart of a man and an amazing talent.  I'm sure he'll be back next year. If you can make it, look for me (the strangely out place 'beast' hanging with a ravishing Italian beauty) and I'll buy first round and by the time we're finished we'll serenade Necromonkey with calls for an ELP encore hahah
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Airbag have very obvious Floydian soundscapes, and when they then slap a Gilmour solo on the piece, it gets to be even more in your face methinks.

That band is hilarious for how obvious they want to sound like PF. Cringe-worthy. 
I thought they were a tribute band. I guess they moved up a bit. LOL
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I can understand KC and Genesis as big influences, but who exactly did Floyd influence except for early Mostly Autumn and Floyd cover bands? And please don't tell me Porcupine Tree because I can't hear it.
Apart from Guldbamsen's list, Karnataka was another I can readily think off.  I am surprised, to be honest, that such a question could be asked in the first place because Gilmour is easily one of the most popular 'sources' when any rock guitarist of the 80s and onwards wants to play a slow, shimmering electric guitar solo.  Almost every 'moving', 'haunting' slow guitar lead in the 80s/modern era is basically Gilmour, whether or not fans of the bands in question wish to acknowledge it.  So, even in a band like Dream Theater, which may not be heavily influenced by Floyd overall, some of Petrucci's slow guitar passages certainly evoke Floyd. Especially so in Octavarium but there are plenty of other examples.  Spirit Carries On is so heavily based on Wall-era Floyd.  Some slow leads of PoS too have evoked Gilmour for me. 
 
Moving to more crossover bands, Supertramp are undeniably influenced by Floyd.  Yes, they are also influenced by other great rock bands but that's not the point.  Floyd are to rock as Miles standards are to jazz, they are all over the place, creeping into the output of many bands one way or the other.  Queensryche's Silent Lucidity is a definite Floyd-inspired case.  Especially the "Hush now don't you cry" verse evokes Mother.  In the case of bands not listed on PA, Tears for Fears were surely influenced by Floyd.  I could literally go on and on.    And this is only with respect to their more popular Gilmour/Waters 70s epoch.  Piper..and Saucerful...are also immensely influential albums, especially so on the Krautrock sub genre of prog.  Doors was also great source material but I would be surprised if Floyd weren't a source. Ah, remembered one more. What about Eloy's Ocean album?  When I heard it last, which is so long ago that I can no longer recall vividly,  I found it almost too Floyd-like to persist. 

Eloy were indeed very Floydian sounding right through to Planets and Time To Turn. Much better drums and bass thoughWink
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

How are Genesis winning this poll? It's about influence on other bands and artists - regardless of the prog tag. Most musicians, that aren't prog fans, have no clue about 70s Genesis, and while the stuff they dished out in the 80s was successful (and pretty damn good), I fail to see how influential it really was on subsequent generations of music makers.
Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes.   
Yep. This poll just confirms my belief that people on this site will vote Genesis on a poll regardless of the title. It's annoying to say the least.

Funny thing I voted Genesis but it was a genuine answer. I think people know that I am not beholden to Genesis but I hear their ideas in so many modern prog bands its really hard to ignore their influence on the prog scene.


You're of course entitled to your opinion, but for influence on prog in particular I would have selected either Crimson or Floyd over Genesis.

Coincidentally I just happened to listen to some Astra this morning and noticed a strong KC influence which hadn't occurred to me previously.Thing is I don't always recognise it and KC is perhaps a little harder to pick up on I suppose.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Airbag have very obvious Floydian soundscapes, and when they then slap a Gilmour solo on the piece, it gets to be even more in your face methinks.

That band is hilarious for how obvious they want to sound like PF. Cringe-worthy. 
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^Nice post, I agree. But I have worked with many guitarists over the years who owe at least part of their style and tone to Gilmour and their band's share none of Floyds attributes. Case in point, Dream Theater. Petrucci can also copy styles and tones from guitarists as diverse as Brian May and actually has done a May copy on the Six Degrees album. Now, does Dream Theater sound like Queen because Petrucci can imitate Brian May?


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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^Nice post.

It also very eloquently, perhaps unintentionally, describes the difference between 'influence' and 'copycatting' - the latter often mistaken for the former. It is possible for a band to have Floyd influences without ever sounding like Floyd.
 
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^Nice post.

It also very eloquently, perhaps unintentionally, describes the difference between 'influence' and 'copycatting' - the latter often mistaken for the former. It is possible for a band to have Floyd influences without ever sounding like Floyd.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I can understand KC and Genesis as big influences, but who exactly did Floyd influence except for early Mostly Autumn and Floyd cover bands? And please don't tell me Porcupine Tree because I can't hear it.
Apart from Guldbamsen's list, Karnataka was another I can readily think off.  I am surprised, to be honest, that such a question could be asked in the first place because Gilmour is easily one of the most popular 'sources' when any rock guitarist of the 80s and onwards wants to play a slow, shimmering electric guitar solo.  Almost every 'moving', 'haunting' slow guitar lead in the 80s/modern era is basically Gilmour, whether or not fans of the bands in question wish to acknowledge it.  So, even in a band like Dream Theater, which may not be heavily influenced by Floyd overall, some of Petrucci's slow guitar passages certainly evoke Floyd. Especially so in Octavarium but there are plenty of other examples.  Spirit Carries On is so heavily based on Wall-era Floyd.  Some slow leads of PoS too have evoked Gilmour for me. 
 
Moving to more crossover bands, Supertramp are undeniably influenced by Floyd.  Yes, they are also influenced by other great rock bands but that's not the point.  Floyd are to rock as Miles standards are to jazz, they are all over the place, creeping into the output of many bands one way or the other.  Queensryche's Silent Lucidity is a definite Floyd-inspired case.  Especially the "Hush now don't you cry" verse evokes Mother.  In the case of bands not listed on PA, Tears for Fears were surely influenced by Floyd.  I could literally go on and on.    And this is only with respect to their more popular Gilmour/Waters 70s epoch.  Piper..and Saucerful...are also immensely influential albums, especially so on the Krautrock sub genre of prog.  Doors was also great source material but I would be surprised if Floyd weren't a source. Ah, remembered one more. What about Eloy's Ocean album?  When I heard it last, which is so long ago that I can no longer recall vividly,  I found it almost too Floyd-like to persist. 
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Airbag have very obvious Floydian soundscapes, and when they then slap a Gilmour solo on the piece, it gets to be even more in your face methinks.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Bands with Floyd influences?
Some featured here on PA:
Marillion, Eloy, IQ, Pendragon, Camel, Pulsar, The Future Kings Of England, Radiohead, Muse, Mew, Siddhartha (Turkish band), Odyssice, Pineapple Thief, Airbag, Alan Parson Project, Far East Family Band, Alcest, Tangerine Dream, Setna, Anathema, Astra, Big Big Train, Phideaux, Crippled Black Phoenix and the list is literally endless. 

Ok, I'll go with Radiohead and Camel as obvious. TD I feel was self evolving but you could make a case for them. The rest I feel have just a passing influence with other bands that are more prominent.
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Bands with Floyd influences?
Some featured here on PA:
Marillion, Eloy, IQ, Pendragon, Camel, Pulsar, The Future Kings Of England, Radiohead, Muse, Mew, Siddhartha (Turkish band), Odyssice, Pineapple Thief, Airbag, Alan Parson Project, Far East Family Band, Alcest, Tangerine Dream, Setna, Anathema, Astra, Big Big Train, Phideaux, Crippled Black Phoenix and the list is literally endless. 
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I can understand KC and Genesis as big influences, but who exactly did Floyd influence except for early Mostly Autumn and Floyd cover bands? And please don't tell me Porcupine Tree because I can't hear it.


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

How are Genesis winning this poll? It's about influence on other bands and artists - regardless of the prog tag. Most musicians, that aren't prog fans, have no clue about 70s Genesis, and while the stuff they dished out in the 80s was successful (and pretty damn good), I fail to see how influential it really was on subsequent generations of music makers.
Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes.   
Yep. This poll just confirms my belief that people on this site will vote Genesis on a poll regardless of the title. It's annoying to say the least.

Funny thing I voted Genesis but it was a genuine answer. I think people know that I am not beholden to Genesis but I hear their ideas in so many modern prog bands its really hard to ignore their influence on the prog scene.


You're of course entitled to your opinion, but for influence on prog in particular I would have selected either Crimson or Floyd over Genesis.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

How are Genesis winning this poll? It's about influence on other bands and artists - regardless of the prog tag. Most musicians, that aren't prog fans, have no clue about 70s Genesis, and while the stuff they dished out in the 80s was successful (and pretty damn good), I fail to see how influential it really was on subsequent generations of music makers.
Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes.   

Yep. This poll just confirms my belief that people on this site will vote Genesis on a poll regardless of the title. It's annoying to say the least.



Funny thing I voted Genesis but it was a genuine answer. I think people know that I am not beholden to Genesis but I hear their ideas in so many modern prog bands its really hard to ignore their influence on the prog scene.


Yeah but the OP specified any kind of music, not just prog.
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Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

How are Genesis winning this poll? It's about influence on other bands and artists - regardless of the prog tag. Most musicians, that aren't prog fans, have no clue about 70s Genesis, and while the stuff they dished out in the 80s was successful (and pretty damn good), I fail to see how influential it really was on subsequent generations of music makers.
Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes.   
Yep. This poll just confirms my belief that people on this site will vote Genesis on a poll regardless of the title. It's annoying to say the least.

Funny thing I voted Genesis but it was a genuine answer. I think people know that I am not beholden to Genesis but I hear their ideas in so many modern prog bands its really hard to ignore their influence on the prog scene.
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