The Krautrock Space

I´m actually surprised that I turned out this normal...

 I recently broke up with her because she insisted on peeling potatoes in bed, and I´d wake up covered in peels...

Reminds me of old Danish children television dolls Anna & Lotte:

 

 

DIRTY PROJECTORS : THE GETTY ADDRESS

 

This one from 2005 is charming ... or not..

 

Whoaa i thought that was Bamsen's girlfriend for a second.My mistake.
That's freaky stuff  Pierre.

MUSIC IS ONE !

 

 

LIGETI : HUNGARIAN ROCK

 

 

STRAVINSKY : EBONY CONCERTO

 

 

FRANCOIS BAYLE : ROSACE 3

 

 

DEBUSSY : TRIO SONATA

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is no secret that there is a lot of San Francisco influence on this music. And remember that about that time even the Grateful Dead was doing 4 and 5 hour shows and very long jams that probably would make "krautrock" blush ... but I have to tell you that I have not been able to get a hold of any GD bootleg or old stuff to study this more. I have heard some and the issue was that the bootleg would only play a portion of it and fade in and out, making it look like a song, and it wasn't. I have no idea, and don't remember, any of these titles.

 

And you must read Hattler's interview in this website also ... he says that in his experience that once they got stuck, and Manny just said ... invent something ... and off to the races they were! That's courage!

 

The difference, and there is a possibility that it is not true that there is any difference, is that the musical history in California was not considered important, except for the "hits" and because of it, a lot of the music died in America. To give you another idea, the early Santana had long cuts and jams ... now go look at the 3 minute songs ... they can't jam for 30 seconds! It's just a solo over and out!

 

In the end, the whole California scene was too stoned and screwed up to get any appreciation for the music, and the only ones that are "appreciated" these days were the ones that "sold" and had a hit. But there were some magnificent things done that are now a part of the "wasteland" that became the flowers in your hair bologne ...

 

Europe, by virtue of the music scene in the late 60's that was going after experimentation, had a lot less problems with these folks using electric and electronic equipment, than in America, where the "electric" is STILL not considered music and local and big time orchestras STILL will not play any of that material, which tells you that they don't believe that music existed at the time that was important. So yes, you can see Klaus with Lisa and then an Evening of Edgar Froese's music with an Orchestra ... and a lot more ... you still don't have those jerks in Los Angeles do An Evening of Frank Zappa music ... unless ZPZ comes by, which is already a very tired group!

 

It's horrendous and pathetic and a gross enfatuation with the star syndromme and the top ten thing ... and we keep supporting it despite the fact that the very music we love got its start by being against the "establishment", and this is one of the greatest ironies I have ever seen these days in this board and when someone says ... they are playing "prog" ... yeah ... I can hear Stravinsky now ... "I'm doing prog" ... and at least he was!

 

The "star" thing, was created by Hollywood, as a way to advertise their movies better, and it has been a part of American life for 75 to 100 years now, and it is the base and the root of the government design these days ... everything is about the "top" and the "this" and "that" and no one questions it because they make the most money and have the best advertising, and this is the single biggest killer of the arts ... and an abuse of the priviledge and the old Plato theorem that said ... might makes right ... which of course is much more important than that idiot that said ... greed is good ... but it defines and explains the American way better. That is not to say that it doesn't happen elsewhere in Europe or other places in the world, butEurope has one advantage America doesn't have ... different countries and cultures next door ... that stay different ... in America they make sure that culture is non-existent in order to make sure the status quo is the "value" behind the sales and the "system".

 

You have to be a massively strong artist with an inner constitution of a rock, to withstand that all your life ... in America!

 

I have more stories on this, but you mught want to check out the Guy Guden Blog on the one on Frank Zappa ... it is so sad it's not funny! But it tells you what the whole thing has become and how boring ... and the music dies and will die some more! Basically, the difference was that Kraurock had more connections with classical and other artists and the connection helped make it all more important. In America, other than Andy Warhol in NY and maybe Schenken SF, I doubt you can name another artist, writer or painter. And of course, no one in this board likes to discuss the Beat Poets and Writers, but that is another issue altogether! Krautrock, can mention just about all writers, painters, musicians and film makers from the mid 60's all the way to the mid 70's ... you can't do that in American music at all! And by that time Andy had already forsaken his friends from the beginning!