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The T
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 12:49 |
thellama73 wrote:
The T wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
It's my last format. When it goes, I start buying used CDs only. When they're gone, I find a new hobby. So NOT interested in downloading and Ipod etc.
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I have an iPhone.. use it for internet, mails, etc etc etc. Even as a camera. But I have ZERO music on it.
I have 1700 cds... The moment I can't buy them anymore, I'll have to live with what I already have. Having everything in a hard drive in one desk in a empty faceless computer is not for me. I need my collection. |
Yeah, if physical media for music disappears, I honestly can't see myself collecting it any more.
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In a way you could keep collecting... but the way things are in the non-physical world, the only limit is the size of your hard drive. Not even money is always a problem (ehem... illegal dow....ehem..) and you can find pretty much anything. I don't buy many rock cds anymore, I'm buying tons of classical music, and here the process is even more intersting: to find a particular recording in a used-cd-store or to find it in a regular store or even on the internet in places like Amazon has some special magic for me... Just downloading tons of sh*t and "collecting" millions of terabytes is not interesting. I really don't feel like I have what I looked for.
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thellama73
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 12:22 |
The T wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
It's my last format. When it goes, I start buying used CDs only. When they're gone, I find a new hobby. So NOT interested in downloading and Ipod etc.
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I have an iPhone.. use it for internet, mails, etc etc etc. Even as a camera. But I have ZERO music on it.
I have 1700 cds... The moment I can't buy them anymore, I'll have to live with what I already have. Having everything in a hard drive in one desk in a empty faceless computer is not for me. I need my collection. |
Yeah, if physical media for music disappears, I honestly can't see myself collecting it any more.
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The T
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 12:19 |
Finnforest wrote:
It's my last format. When it goes, I start buying used CDs only. When they're gone, I find a new hobby. So NOT interested in downloading and Ipod etc.
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I have an iPhone.. use it for internet, mails, etc etc etc. Even as a camera. But I have ZERO music on it.
I have 1700 cds... The moment I can't buy them anymore, I'll have to live with what I already have. Having everything in a hard drive in one desk in a empty faceless computer is not for me. I need my collection.
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himtroy
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 00:57 |
I didn't even collect most of them, as I wasn't even alive when they we're used widely. I've built it up even more over recent years though.
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:15 |
himtroy wrote:
TheGazzardian wrote:
himtroy wrote:
I'm pretty sure the inconvenience of vinyl has been noted by all. Thus the rapid evolution away from it. However theres no reason some of us can't still use them. I mean, it's not really any more inconvenient for me to walk across the room and put on a vinyl than it is to walk over there and put on a cd/input the Ipod. |
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that nobody should use them. I still use them, as I said I like collecting them for trophies and I listen to them every once in a while. XD I just find them more difficult to use. |
It wasn't meant to be a shot back at you. Just that some people kinda throw this "well CDs exist! Get rid of that stuff" attitude around. But more so just that people in here we're saying things like "well vinyl is more inconvenient" which seems kinda obvious....
I can't help but phrase things so that people think I'm attacking them....
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You bitch!!  I kept all my vinyls even when they were supposed to be obsolete only to see most of them wind up under water. Some of the best survived though.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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himtroy
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:04 |
TheGazzardian wrote:
himtroy wrote:
I'm pretty sure the inconvenience of vinyl has been noted by all. Thus the rapid evolution away from it. However theres no reason some of us can't still use them. I mean, it's not really any more inconvenient for me to walk across the room and put on a vinyl than it is to walk over there and put on a cd/input the Ipod. |
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that nobody should use them. I still use them, as I said I like collecting them for trophies and I listen to them every once in a while. XD I just find them more difficult to use. |
It wasn't meant to be a shot back at you. Just that some people kinda throw this "well CDs exist! Get rid of that stuff" attitude around. But more so just that people in here we're saying things like "well vinyl is more inconvenient" which seems kinda obvious....
I can't help but phrase things so that people think I'm attacking them....
Edited by himtroy - October 06 2010 at 22:05
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 22:02 |
himtroy wrote:
I'm pretty sure the inconvenience of vinyl has been noted by all. Thus the rapid evolution away from it. However theres no reason some of us can't still use them. I mean, it's not really any more inconvenient for me to walk across the room and put on a vinyl than it is to walk over there and put on a cd/input the Ipod. |
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that nobody should use them. I still use them, as I said I like collecting them for trophies and I listen to them every once in a while. XD I just find them more difficult to use.
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himtroy
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 21:20 |
I'm pretty sure the inconvenience of vinyl has been noted by all. Thus the rapid evolution away from it. However theres no reason some of us can't still use them. I mean, it's not really any more inconvenient for me to walk across the room and put on a vinyl than it is to walk over there and put on a cd/input the Ipod.
And I know many people who's vinyl collections have been destroyed by floods....why must that be such a frequent occurrence.
Edited by himtroy - October 07 2010 at 00:57
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 20:44 |
TheGazzardian wrote:
I actually find vinyl pretty inconvenient, it's harder to transport, easier to damage, more likely to wear out over time / uses, harder to purchase used unless you really know what to look for. Higher learning curve, more to maintain. I like them for the album art but if I'm honest, I view them more as trophies of music I really like than as my primary source of music, which is still the CD. |
This is basically why I'll never become a fan of vinyls. I grew up on 45's and 33-1/3'rds. CD's represented a big compromise to the artwork, but the sound really was better. And the portability is really a good factor. Some of the non-hardcopy digital formats will probably surpass CDs, but if you're really going to kill the CD and LP, you're going to have to transform the way artwork is delivered (I'm thinking it will be something holographic). Then again, maybe all us old farts will die off and badly sounding tracks on extremely small devices will rule. 
Edited by Slartibartfast - October 06 2010 at 20:47
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 16:59 |
I actually find vinyl pretty inconvenient, it's harder to transport, easier to damage, more likely to wear out over time / uses, harder to purchase used unless you really know what to look for. Higher learning curve, more to maintain. I like them for the album art but if I'm honest, I view them more as trophies of music I really like than as my primary source of music, which is still the CD.
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himtroy
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 15:20 |
SaltyJon wrote:
I'll be really upset when CDs and physical media disappears. Sure, it's more convenient to just go and download mp3 copies of a band you like, but it's just missing something...plus, if your hard drive gets messed up you're kind of out of luck unless you've got everything backed up, which I'm sure a lot of people don't.
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This. My external hard drive crashed and all the albums I've bought on Itunes are gone. Why doesn't the program just acknowledge that I've paid for it before and let me download it for free? Garbage.
And I as well listen to vinyl pretty frequently, though I can admit the inconvenience of not being able to take it with me anywhere or listen to it on the move.
Edited by himtroy - October 06 2010 at 15:22
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 14:54 |
Hawkwise wrote:
Never going to give up my ole vinyl !!! , Vinyl Rules !!!
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You know if you ever give up on the vinyl the world might just come to an end.  So for the sake of us all, don't stop.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Passionist
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 14:44 |
SaltyJon wrote:
Plus, I seriously doubt that mp3s would sound quite as good on a high quality sound system as a CD or a vinyl would. I can't speak from experience, though.
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Sure they can, but it'll take much longer than just 10 years. In fact, at that point I doubt they'll be mp3s anymore, but some other format, and at that point those, who've published only in this lossy mp3 mofo of ours will sell no more. At least what's good about CDs is that they're worth buying even though there are mp3s. But you can't make an mp3 file sound better when the quality is already lost. Imagine a band, who only recorde on C-tapes because they were 'the' new thing. There's nothing they can do to make their music sound better nowadays, it's basically lost :P
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peart_lee_lifeson
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Posted: October 06 2010 at 14:16 |
I don't know if I could function without the cd. I do not like downloading and can only hope artists don't stop selling cds.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: June 21 2010 at 21:54 |
Never going to give up my ole vinyl !!! , Vinyl Rules !!!
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Chris S
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 22:29 |
yeah but CD's died technologically speaking at least 5 years ago ( Even though I am a personal fan of the media)
Doesn't matter what anyone says...............she's moved on
Edited by Chris S - June 19 2010 at 22:30
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clarke2001
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 18:42 |
Does optical necessary implies digital? I mean, could an optical cable transfer analog data? We could burn (cut) the vinyls on demand.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 18:36 |
and what of classical and jazz listeners? A significant piece of the market made up of people who may not be into the download thing..they'll want their CDs, and they'll complain if they start disappearing
on the other side, a friend who runs one of the better-known Prog sites says this was the first year he started getting more downloads than CDs from the labels that send him stuff (which he wasn't happy about)
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 15:35 |
I sure hope not. I think the music industry is already suffering because of the advent of downloads, and to completely dispose of CD's won't make it any better. As many have said in this thread, I want to have a physical copy of an album. While music is of course the most important factor, there is still more to an album than what meets the ear. I want to be immersed in the cover art and liner notes and lyrics pamphlet, instead of just clicking a bar on a list which causes music to come out. I don't care if I have to pay extra or wait a few days for it to arrive in the mail, it's still so much more tantalizing to me than a lifeless file. If downloads become the mainstream way of buying music, let's just that my music purchasing will diminish into nothing, and this thread proves I won't be the only one.
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The Truth
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Posted: June 19 2010 at 10:03 |
The only bad part I see would be some of the classic older bands fading from existence because the download sites wouldn't pick them up.
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