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The Hopper bass on Third is heavy though.
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

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I only rate albums one star if I can't see myself listening to them again ever.

I've handed out fewer than ten of those honors.


I can only think of three right now for myself.  But yes, that criterion works well.  Albums so terrible you're tempted to throw them away, so they don't foul up your collection with their stinkiness.


Here's mine, although to be fair, I like Kate Bush's album as a pop record (which is saying a lot, since I hate most 80s pop and as soon as I heard the first track a severe wave of buyer's remorse fell over me).

1 starsSTEVEN WILSON Insurgentes | review
1 starsGENESIS Genesis | review
1 starsYES Union | review
1 starsVARIOUS ARTISTS (LABEL SAMPLERS) Anderson, Wakeman, Howe (Original Members of Yes) | review
1 starsKATE BUSH Hounds of Love | review
1 starsCOVEN Blood on the Snow | review
1 starsCOVEN Witchcraft Destroys Minds And Reaps Souls | review
1 starsADRIAN BELEW Young Lions | review


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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

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How anyone thinks Awake is not the best DT album is beyond me...



Perhaps because it has it's pretty heavy moments? I find it good, specially 6:00, Innocence Faded and Lifting Shadows.., while Scarred, Voices, The Silent Man, Space Dye-Vest and Erotomania have there really good moments.


Hm... oersonally, I wouldn't consider anything off it remotely as heavy as Speed King or the opening solo off Facelift or something like that. It's pretty metallic, I'll give you, but I don't really mind any musical styles enough to complain if they seem well-written and memorable to me (I mean, my main problem with metal is when it's done very blandly, which is a bit... the songs off Awake don't strike me as that).


Come on, compare Speed King to The Mirror or Caught in a Web. Speed King is heavy, though more raw sounding IMO, it doesn't create a wall of sound like those from DT do.


I did. Speed King seems heavier to me... loud, fast, intense, great riff, thick sound, that great, twisty solo at the start... suppose it's just differing opinions on what constitute heaviness. The typical 'metal' sound has never struck me as particularly heavy.
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I only rate albums one star if I can't see myself listening to them again ever.

I've handed out fewer than ten of those honors.


I can only think of three right now for myself.  But yes, that criterion works well.  Albums so terrible you're tempted to throw them away, so they don't foul up your collection with their stinkiness.


Pain of Salvation - Scarsick
Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Tarkus
Godspeed! You Black Emperor - Raise My Fatty Toes Like Fishing Rods to Hell

That's three.
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The opening solo on Facelift is heavy?

Gosh, you need educating on heaviness.  Try Guapo's Black Oni (especially one section) and get back to me. Wink


That organ solo (the huge stretchy one) is massive, raw and mind-stretching. Heavy is not simply having guitars and drums and being loud.


I know.

Also listen to Elton Dean's Unlimited Saxophone Company.

That's also heavy.

Just saxophones and a trumpet (I think).
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Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

The opening solo on Facelift is heavy?

Gosh, you need educating on heaviness.  Try Guapo's Black Oni (especially one section) and get back to me. Wink


That organ solo (the huge stretchy one) is massive, raw and mind-stretching. Heavy is not simply having guitars and drums and being loud.


Black Oni is guitar free.  Big smile

That's not true.  Confused


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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I only rate albums one star if I can't see myself listening to them again ever.

I've handed out fewer than ten of those honors.


I can only think of three right now for myself.  But yes, that criterion works well.  Albums so terrible you're tempted to throw them away, so they don't foul up your collection with their stinkiness.
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I only rate albums one star if I can't see myself listening to them again ever.

I've handed out fewer than ten of those honors.


I agree: Pictures at an Exhibition
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

The opening solo on Facelift is heavy?

Gosh, you need educating on heaviness.  Try Guapo's Black Oni (especially one section) and get back to me. Wink


That organ solo (the huge stretchy one) is massive, raw and mind-stretching. Heavy is not simply having guitars and drums and being loud.
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I only rate albums one star if I can't see myself listening to them again ever.

I've handed out fewer than ten of those honors.
https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays
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Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

How anyone thinks Awake is not the best DT album is beyond me...


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The opening solo on Facelift is heavy?

Gosh, you need educating on heaviness.  Try Guapo's Black Oni (especially one section) and get back to me. Wink


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Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

How anyone thinks Awake is not the best DT album is beyond me...



Perhaps because it has it's pretty heavy moments? I find it good, specially 6:00, Innocence Faded and Lifting Shadows.., while Scarred, Voices, The Silent Man, Space Dye-Vest and Erotomania have there really good moments.


Hm... oersonally, I wouldn't consider anything off it remotely as heavy as Speed King or the opening solo off Facelift or something like that. It's pretty metallic, I'll give you, but I don't really mind any musical styles enough to complain if they seem well-written and memorable to me (I mean, my main problem with metal is when it's done very blandly, which is a bit... the songs off Awake don't strike me as that).


Come on, compare Speed King to The Mirror or Caught in a Web. Speed King is heavy, though more raw sounding IMO, it doesn't create a wall of sound like those from DT do.
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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

How anyone thinks Awake is not the best DT album is beyond me...



Perhaps because it has it's pretty heavy moments? I find it good, specially 6:00, Innocence Faded and Lifting Shadows.., while Scarred, Voices, The Silent Man, Space Dye-Vest and Erotomania have there really good moments.


Hm... oersonally, I wouldn't consider anything off it remotely as heavy as Speed King or the opening solo off Facelift or something like that. It's pretty metallic, I'll give you, but I don't really mind any musical styles enough to complain if they seem well-written and memorable to me (I mean, my main problem with metal is when it's done very blandly, which is a bit... the songs off Awake don't strike me as that).
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

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How anyone thinks Awake is not the best DT album is beyond me...

And anyway, World Record is still a great record. I prefer other VDGG albums... almost all other VDGG albums, but the number of albums I don't prefer all other VDGG albums to is very small.
How anybody can think that Metropolis Part 2 is a 1 star album is beyond me...

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Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

How anyone thinks Awake is not the best DT album is beyond me...



Perhaps because it has it's pretty heavy moments? I find it good, specially 6:00, Innocence Faded and Lifting Shadows.., while Scarred, Voices, The Silent Man, Space Dye-Vest and Erotomania have there really good moments.
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World Record you may like, it's easier on the ears and the songs aren't quite so weird.

No, I must order Thin Air.

I need it on CD.  MP3s/FLAC just won't do.


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Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

How anyone thinks Awake is not the best DT album is beyond me...

And anyway, World Record is still a great record. I prefer other VDGG albums... almost all other VDGG albums, but the number of albums I don't prefer all other VDGG albums to is very small.
How anybody can think that Metropolis Part 2 is a 1 star album is beyond me...
 
I haven't heard World Record, but the VDGG albums that I prefer are very small.
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Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

How anyone thinks Awake is not the best DT album is beyond me...


Awake and Images and Words are so close that it doesn't matter too much to me.
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