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Posted: March 10 2014 at 14:11
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Dean wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
I didn't vote so. Of course (well almost of course) I have gone for Siouxsie and the Banshees. I am tempted by the Cocteaus and Sisters. But, lets face it, the Banshees were one of the best bands ever to have existed.
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akamaisondufromage wrote:
I would have liked the original line up (not the Sid Vicious et al version, but the Scream version) to have done a couple more albums as well - maybe at the same time as Kaleidoscope and JuJu - in my own little fantasy world but hey, what we got was incredible stuff.
I saw one of the last gigs of the McKay and Morris lineup
They only played two more after that, Belfast and Aberdeen.
Really! You lucky B! I didn't get to see them until 1985 when John Valentine Carruthers was guitarist and I was well pissed that McGeoch had left and that Mr Smith wasn't back again! Ah well, they were still better than most even then. McKay is a much underrated guitarist me thinks. I'm sure technically he's not anything, but just listen to that noise...
On ability I think he's rated pretty much where he should be but he deserves credit for more or less defining post punk guitar with Switch.
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Posted: March 10 2014 at 13:58
Dean wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
I didn't vote so. Of course (well almost of course) I have gone for Siouxsie and the Banshees. I am tempted by the Cocteaus and Sisters. But, lets face it, the Banshees were one of the best bands ever to have existed.
here, here.
akamaisondufromage wrote:
I would have liked the original line up (not the Sid Vicious et al version, but the Scream version) to have done a couple more albums as well - maybe at the same time as Kaleidoscope and JuJu - in my own little fantasy world but hey, what we got was incredible stuff.
I saw one of the last gigs of the McKay and Morris lineup
They only played two more after that, Belfast and Aberdeen.
Really! You lucky B! I didn't get to see them until 1985 when John Valentine Carruthers was guitarist and I was well pissed that McGeoch had left and that Mr Smith wasn't back again! Ah well, they were still better than most even then. McKay is a much underrated guitarist me thinks. I'm sure technically he's not anything, but just listen to that noise...
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Posted: March 10 2014 at 13:47
akamaisondufromage wrote:
I didn't vote so. Of course (well almost of course) I have gone for Siouxsie and the Banshees. I am tempted by the Cocteaus and Sisters. But, lets face it, the Banshees were one of the best bands ever to have existed.
here, here.
akamaisondufromage wrote:
I would have liked the original line up (not the Sid Vicious et al version, but the Scream version) to have done a couple more albums as well - maybe at the same time as Kaleidoscope and JuJu - in my own little fantasy world but hey, what we got was incredible stuff.
I saw one of the last gigs of the McKay and Morris lineup
They only played two more after that, Belfast and Aberdeen.
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Posted: March 10 2014 at 13:29
I didn't vote so. Of course (well almost of course) I have gone for Siouxsie and the Banshees. I am tempted by the Cocteaus and Sisters. But, lets face it, the Banshees were one of the best bands ever to have existed.
I would have liked the original line up (not the Sid Vicious et al version, but the Scream version) to have done a couple more albums as well - maybe at the same time as Kaleidoscope and JuJu - in my own little fantasy world but hey, what we got was incredible stuff.
The band I'm most surprised to not see here is The Fall, with Wire a close second.
Toaster Mantis wrote:
I think the "post-punk" categorization refers not
to coming after punk chronologically, but just to the artists coming
from an obvious punk background while at the same time moving their
music beyond what can be accurately categorized as belonging to the
genre.
The above description of post-punk is very apt in the Fall's case as they kinda developed 'in parallel' to Punk having started around 1976 (when we were still gobbing on those we had paid good money to be target practice - go figure spiky tops) Although I really enjoyed Wire's Chairs Missing, and would acknowledge how influential they turned out to be, much of their output smacked of art school situationists exploiting minimalism/punk as a vehicle for another highbrow agenda. Crass were guilty of same in my book. But then I'm a cynical old f*rt
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Posted: March 09 2014 at 04:19
The band I'm most surprised to not see here is The Fall, with Wire a close second.
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 12:08
Actually, in the long line of errors with this poll I also have just remembered that, for some unknown reason, Talking Heads are on PA. I would take them off* and replace them with Television (even though I prefer The Fall) but I will leave as is. Especially as someone has voted for TH already.
*I don't mean off PA.
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 10:22
Television is gr8. Probably would have voted the Fall, if it had been in the poll, although it would have been a difficult choice between them and the Cure.
Great list and you have to draw the line somewhere...
Honourable mentions:
Echo & the Bunnymen Teardrop Explodes Television Monochrome Set Mighty Lemon Drops the Fall the Sound the Smiths (for Dean) Tender Lugers And Also the Trees Soft Boys the Go-Betweens
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 03:55
Of course Lovecats is The Cure at their most chart-friendliest and is very atypical.
There are too many bands in this list for each of them to get a fair coverage, so I'll give a shout-out for Modern English. They had more success in the US of A than in their native Essex but produced three cracking albums on 4AD and also contributed a lot to Ivo's This Mortal Coil project.
This is their "most famous" song and has featured in several films and tv programmes over the years
However I prefer their earlier stuff:
(this was also "covered" by TMC and was the flip-side to Song To The Siren)
I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
Guldbamsem yay hello you!!! mhwoaaashhxxxxx te tem te ti ti tik tik listening right now but I am a having a bit of difficulty In enjoying this song bah I am so sorry :(
No reason to be sorry, don't worry - we can't all be listening to the same stuff If there is one thing I've learned over the years here on PA then it's exactly that.
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 03:39
Kati wrote:
Dean wrote:
Kati wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Kati wrote:
I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
What do you want help with Kati? None (see above) of these bands are punk bands. If you want the less noisy variety then check out Cocteaus and Dead Can Dance and The Cure. All of which are brilliant. DCD are on PA. Steer clear of The Fall as they are noisy but of course, brilliant too and one day you might find yourself in a Mark E Smith zone. Variety is the Spice of Life.
Hello akamaisondufromage,
Thank you for your suggestion in regards to the Cure, Cocteaus and Dead can dance I am most curious and will go look right now at them I love instrumentals, with great lead and respond between them inc. just guitars I do not miss vocalists. With Punk I have found that it mostly just playing whatever, I cannot follow it. Again thank you very much, hugs btw doesn't fromage mean cheese in French?
You've never heard Lovecats?
listening to lovecats right now Dean, I love the funny noises!!! Ha! This so far I seem to like a lot really
hahahaha.... this is punk mixed with come on Eileen dexies midnight runners with an added jazzy vibe but better hahahaha love the funny noises
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Posted: March 08 2014 at 03:36
Dean wrote:
Kati wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Kati wrote:
I am at a lost here, unless anyone has great suggestions for me to listen to and prove me wrong. I find punk noisy, going no where just a bunch of gajan... gajan... gaja... sounding guitar strumming, plus singing, no structure, no layers nothing and that's it.
What do you want help with Kati? None (see above) of these bands are punk bands. If you want the less noisy variety then check out Cocteaus and Dead Can Dance and The Cure. All of which are brilliant. DCD are on PA. Steer clear of The Fall as they are noisy but of course, brilliant too and one day you might find yourself in a Mark E Smith zone. Variety is the Spice of Life.
Hello akamaisondufromage,
Thank you for your suggestion in regards to the Cure, Cocteaus and Dead can dance I am most curious and will go look right now at them I love instrumentals, with great lead and respond between them inc. just guitars I do not miss vocalists. With Punk I have found that it mostly just playing whatever, I cannot follow it. Again thank you very much, hugs btw doesn't fromage mean cheese in French?
You've never heard Lovecats?
listening to lovecats right now Dean, I love the funny noises!!! Ha! This so far I seem to like a lot really
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akamaisondufromage wrote:
) Although I really enjoyed Wire's Chairs Missing, and would acknowledge how influential they turned out to be, much of their output smacked of art school situationists exploiting minimalism/punk as a vehicle for another highbrow agenda. Crass were guilty of same in my book. But then I'm a cynical old f*rt
I am so sorry :(
If there is one thing I've learned over the years here on PA then it's exactly that.
