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Tom Ozric
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 04:53 |
It wasn't me - honest - but so far it's the debut that does it for me. I still need to get more from them........I have my eyes on 'Pilgrimage', 'Fourth' and 'There's The Rub'. Then I will start to judge what I prefer most.
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BarryGlibb
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 04:27 |
OK, who's the comedian that voted for Locked In?!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 04:20 |
Surprising there are no votes for the 'Live Dates' dbl LP extravaganza. Fantastic performances all 'round.
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LSDisease
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 04:16 |
Wishbone Four
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 04:13 |
I just acquired the Wishbone Ash debut LP, and I have to confess that it is more me than Argus. And I can see how Steve Harris modelled Iron Maiden on this mob. Still, the San Fran band Quicksilver Messenger Service were a twin guitar revolution, with excellent music to boot.
Duncan/Cipollina are still my preferred guitar duo.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: October 31 2013 at 05:46 |
ARGUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 27 2013 at 13:16 |
Argus has always been my favorite one but recently I was lucky to find a used copy of both Best of Wishbone Ash and Pilgrimage on cd. Other than the tracks on the best of I haven't heard any of the later Ash lp's.
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oldrok
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Posted: October 27 2013 at 11:03 |
Good comments all...
Ok, Argus: For me is the best "technical" expression of the band to that point. Prog rock fans were surely wondering what limits WA could ascend to, and their Label fully expected future efforts to launch them deep into the mainstream, didn't fully come to pass though.
There's the Rub: I like a lot. Produced by Bill Scymzyk, and the overall sound and mix reflects that, it could have been, at least in my mind, far more commercially successful than it was with stronger backing and airplay. That is, of course if commercial success is important which ultimately I'll concede that it is not.
New England: What an album. Recorded "in the basement at Mart's place"(Martin Turners home in Connecticut), this effort is one that I have never tired of listening to in well over 30 years. A sort of return to garage band roots, for me it took the band in the direction that THEY wanted to go, something that not all bands would do even if they wanted it. Even with harsh tracks like "Mother of Pearl", which I take as an expression of living in their exile to the U.S. due to tax troubles in U.K., this album gets my vote.
Locked In: As noted or alluded by several was unlistenable, which having fallen in between two of the bands best efforts seems odd at best.
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TODDLER
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Posted: October 03 2013 at 11:07 |
Argus is probably their most consistent work. I like songs from New England, There's the Rub, and Pilgrimage. I bounce around between those 4. I also enjoyed Noveau Calls..which is not a 70's release, but a instrumental one and worth checking out. I didn't like the production on their debut and that gets to me. The debut is fine no doubt. Some of my favorite pieces/songs are "The Pilgrim"..(which is very Progressive Rock), "In All Of My Dreams" , and "The King Will Come". They often produced a style which ventured into Traditional Folk. The center of "The King Will Come" features 2 guitars blending and produces that traditional English style found on Fairport Convention, Pentangle, and Steeleye Span albums.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 00:30 |
As I have mentioned elsewhere, I was fortunate to catch the Nektar / M.T.'s Wishbone Ash gig at BB Kings, NYC, and Turner was the only original member. But that's all they needed - wonderful
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AlanB
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 16:39 |
cstack3 wrote:
It's hard to understand why there are two Wishbone Ashes, rather ridiculous....Martin Turner's version with Ted Turner and Steve Upton sounds excellent!
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I hope you don't mind me correcting you - Martin Turner indeed has an excellent band, but it doesn't include Ted Turner and Steve Upton. Martin is in the same position as Andy Powell in that both bands have just one original member. Ted Turner has guested with Martin's band a few times (most recently in Japan a few weeks ago), but Steve Upton doesn't play any more, sadly.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 14:46 |
cstack3 wrote:
stegor wrote:
Argus is one of those albums that absolutely every Prog fan should hear.
Or so I'm told, I've never heard it.
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I heartily suggest you hear it! Check it out on YouTube!
I first saw them in 1973, they were amazing! More recently, I saw Andy Powell's version just a few months ago, it was really fine!
It's hard to understand why there are two Wishbone Ashes, rather ridiculous....Martin Turner's version with Ted Turner and Steve Upton sounds excellent!
Hey, whatever, I enjoy all of it! Here's a good Andy Powell interview:
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Cool interview. I wonder what kind of drugs They were on.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 14:41 |
Argus. But there was other great stuff.
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AlanB
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 11:09 |
I was a big fan in the 70s, lost interest after Martin Turner left in 1980 but got back into them in the last 15 years. I've seen MT's band many times and for me they have the classic WA sound of the 70s.
As for albums, I have to go with Argus. It's my favourite album by any band, and the most progressive of Wishbone Ash's catalogue. Other albums of theirs that I really like are No Smoke Without Fire, There's The Rub, and Live Dates Vol 2.
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 02 2013 at 22:50 |
Argus
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Posted: August 02 2013 at 01:06 |
love them all but 'four' and ' new england' my faves at the moment, in fact' new england' comes really close to ' argus'
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progresssaurus
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Posted: July 28 2013 at 08:42 |
Pilgrimage
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presdoug
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Posted: July 28 2013 at 07:53 |
Hercules wrote:
Argus is one of the very few discs I rate as nearly perfect - there's not a bad note on it.
But Pilgrimage and Live Dates are also excellent and No Smoke Without Fire is also very good.
Several others are also good, the only turkey being Locked In.
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After i voted initially, the first other vote registered was for Locked In. Who would figure?
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AEProgman
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Posted: July 27 2013 at 21:31 |
Argus it has to be for me. It is an album that I never tire of and can listen to it anytime. Very key in my youthful listening world. But as the Glibb mentioned, Blowing Free was a song that really did not fit with the rest and was a hit in England if I recall correctly, it is my least favorite on that album, but the rest of the album is perfect! Their first album, self titiled is excellent also and worthy of votes. Phoenix is a killer.. I was saddened to hear their are two versions of the Ash going around, just work it out, shut up and play!
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Posted: July 26 2013 at 07:18 |
It's hard to think of another band who has one album so far above the rest as Ash have with Argus. In order to give the others a bit of a chance, I voted for Pilgrimage.
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