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richardh
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Posted: October 29 2013 at 02:56 |
btw I don't blame Davison one bit for taking the Yes gig. Would have been impossible to turn down and I'm disappointed I won't be able to see Yes do the trio of classic albums on tour next year. Please please let there be a DVD
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Posted: October 29 2013 at 02:54 |
Cheers , very pleased to hear it
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Posted: October 29 2013 at 02:45 |
Richard, apparently GH is well into recording a new album with Carl on vocals (no bad thing there, at least it's not the guy who sang on `Chronometree'!), Jon seems to have had some small involvement, but in a recent promo picture for them he was nowhere to be seen.
If he's no longer part of the band, they're being very careful and downplaying it. I wonder if they fear that if news is widepsread that Jon is no longer involved much with them, all those Yes fans that have just started checking out the band might take off again.
I'd like to think they've won many more people over through their talent, musicality and good production than simply a superficial connection to Yes.
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Posted: October 29 2013 at 02:32 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Woooh, band politics are heavy....... |
I was thinking in more practicable terms. GH is presumably on 'hold'. so perhaps in order to get it up and running again there will need to be a new lineup. Although I like the recent line up my favourite GH line up is the one that was on Culture Of Ascent which included Groves and the very talented Matt Mendians on drums. I would love to see that resurrected although I assume that Mendians has gone onto pastures so I don't know if that's possible putting aside any possible 'history' that may have existed on his leaving.
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Posted: October 29 2013 at 00:12 |
Maybe Yes can tap Paul Rodgers!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: October 28 2013 at 03:03 |
Woooh, band politics are heavy.......
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richardh
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Posted: October 28 2013 at 02:46 |
Davison could be out of both bands as Carl Groves who sang on Culture Of Ascent and did an excellent job would be a more than adequate replacement. Glass Hammers own website is very quiet on this (actually its very quiet on everything tbh)
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Posted: October 28 2013 at 02:14 |
verslibre wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
I can understand Yes' desire to have Davison in top singing form for their set. I don't understand why they think they 'own' Davison ?? If he's up for it, he should be able/allowed to sing for Glass Hammer as well. 'Perilous' is an *outstanding* album - better than any post-Drama Yes album IMO. And that includes 'Magnification'. |
Yes needs Davison more than Davison needs Yes. |
Sure he's privileged to front the veteran proggers, but GH are equally as relevant these days, if not more so. If it falls through, we will still get Davison singing for GH. Who's going to sing for Yes ???
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Posted: October 27 2013 at 14:45 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
I can understand Yes' desire to have Davison in top singing form for their set. I don't understand why they think they 'own' Davison ?? If he's up for it, he should be able/allowed to sing for Glass Hammer as well. 'Perilous' is an *outstanding* album - better than any post-Drama Yes album IMO. And that includes 'Magnification'. |
I'd wager at this point, while the pay must be solid, that Yes needs Davison more than Davison needs Yes. If he really argued to sing for both Yes and GH, I imagine he'd be able to. Is Yes really going to fire a replacement singer again?
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Posted: October 26 2013 at 06:57 |
I can understand Yes' desire to have Davison in top singing form for their set. I don't understand why they think they 'own' Davison ?? If he's up for it, he should be able/allowed to sing for Glass Hammer as well. 'Perilous' is an *outstanding* album - better than any post-Drama Yes album IMO. And that includes 'Magnification'.
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Posted: October 26 2013 at 06:42 |
I aint going to spend my money to see Yes live playing the old songs, but i would prefer to support a band that have produce many albums recently despite having a slight piece of recognition of what Yes have around the world fan base.
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Posted: October 26 2013 at 06:04 |
infandous wrote:
I'm much rather listen to Davison in Glass Hammer than in Yes. Yes is a spent force, and has been for many years, IMO. If Davison can change this, it will be a pleasant surprise, but I don't think it's going to happen. Fly From Here was tepid, at best, and I don't expect much more even with Davison on board.
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I must be in the minority then because I really enjoyed Fly From Here. Also enjoy Glass Hammer. Why must we support one band and knock the other?
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Posted: October 24 2013 at 15:18 |
^ agree with both of you
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Posted: October 24 2013 at 09:57 |
I'm much rather listen to Davison in Glass Hammer than in Yes. Yes is a spent force, and has been for many years, IMO. If Davison can change this, it will be a pleasant surprise, but I don't think it's going to happen. Fly From Here was tepid, at best, and I don't expect much more even with Davison on board.
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Posted: October 24 2013 at 09:32 |
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!. how many times will i hear. glass hammer vs yes. in sound maybe they sound in parts little like yes. but if you listen to lets say marillion fish era. they where always called genesis clones. with fish in full face make up and stroyteller mode. i`m a huge fan of yes from `73. i`ve also gotten few albums by glass hammer. there a class prog band. just open your ears too the MUSIC.
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Posted: April 16 2013 at 01:09 |
^That is rotten news. Yes are pretty much a spent force. Glass Hammer and Jon Davison have been riding a symphonic wave of brilliance. A real shame but then GH have been a remarkably consistent band since 2002 and as I said before they will be okay.
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Posted: April 15 2013 at 08:35 |
infandous wrote:
Well, apparently the members of Yes all said yes to him singing with both bands. Yes' management disagreed and said no.
Whatever the truth, I have long since lost interest in anything "Yes" does (without Anderson, I just don't see it as Yes). Fly From Here was the best Buggles album ever. As a Yes album, it was not terrible, but that's the best praise I can give it.
Also, it doesn't appear from this news that Davison is no longer in Glass Hammer, only that he won't be appearing with them on this cruise. Is that correct, or did I miss something about him not being in Glass Hammer anymore?
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This interview with Steve Howe was posted to the "Notes From The Edge" page of Facebook, which is often insightful.
From the interview:
Yes recently completed their Cruise To The Edge floating festival, which started with a cloud over it after it was said the band had forbidden Davison to sing with Glass Hammer on the ship.
But Howe calls the story an “exaggeration,” explaining: “There was a decision: we jointly, as a band, decided not to water it down – let’s all be Yes at that time. I won’t dabble with my thing and no one else will dabble with other things.
“When I saw how it had come out I went, ‘Yuck!’ I was uncomfortable. It should have just said – and it would have been more honest if it just said – ‘Yes members are only doing Yes on the cruise.’ It would have said the same thing in a much better way.
“There was a lot of logic in the decision and it applied to everybody, not just him. If we hadn’t make the decision we’d have been doing masterclasses, lunches, tap-dancing, using whatever other skills we had!" ===== My guess is that Yes has completely assimilated Jon Davison into their band, and that Glass Hammer will move on. No one has said as much, but I think that is the way it is moving. Yes sorely needed some new energy and talent, and Davison brings composing skills and cohesion to a very dysfunctional group. I don't see any way that Davison can front two bands, Yes won't allow it. Is this fair to Glass Hammer, after releasing their masterwork "Perilous"? Probably not, but that's rock & roll. Read the entire interview, it's excellent....Howe is not favorable to a new Yes album, Squire is etc.
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Posted: March 30 2013 at 21:04 |
I am very sad that I can not make the cruise. Glass Hammer are a bloody good band, and they will deliver.
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Posted: February 16 2013 at 21:04 |
mustachemanager wrote:
Was that from a completely solo show? Cool footage. Thanks for sharing.
I really dig the "Olias" album as well.
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You are very welcome, I wish I had a tripod for that one! That clip was from Jon's "Voice of Yes" solo show. It was an amazing show, he mixed classic Yes, "Olias" and many stories, jokes & remembrances!
One of the high points was when he sat down at an electronic keyboard (nice Korg Triton workstation or equivalent) and did a solo version of "The Revealing Science of God"! Truly amazing! ![Clap Clap](smileys/smiley32.gif)
He also gave a few insights into the "Jon vs. Yes" goings-on....I gathered that he's not as angry with Squire as he might be with Howe, although Squire is the bad-guy in most of the print/blogs/forums.
In any event, I didn't sense any real healing between Yes and Jon will happen any time soon. If he DID sit in with Glass Hammer, I think it would be earth-shaking!
Whatever, I hope everyone as a good time on CTTE!! Don't need any blown out engines, toilets etc.!
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Posted: February 16 2013 at 19:47 |
Was that from a completely solo show? Cool footage. Thanks for sharing.
I really dig the "Olias" album as well.
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