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Sumdeus
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 23 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Status: Offline Points: 831 |
Posted: November 30 2012 at 13:37 | ||||
have you ever considered that maybe it's the other drugs you did that affected you? just wondering, i've seen a lot of people post things similar to you and it always seems like they mention that they did other drugs besides cannabis but never seem to think that maybe that's what had impacted them negatively.
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Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
Posted: November 30 2012 at 13:08 | ||||
Smartpatrol, if I'm not mistaken you're still very young so you're looking for advice and experience, not just people telling you "i have smoked a lot" or "I have never smoked". Those who have never smoked are of course allowed to post but I don't think that they can offer you much valuable information here, pay most attention to what the ones who have done can tell you.
I was a huge consumer from around 15 to around 30 years old, I planted and harvested my own for years and smoked on nearly daily base with friends. We consumed also worse things for a long time but since I was 38 (8 years ago) I am clean except for cigarettes and alcohol.
The effects of any drugs are highly dependent on the personality and strenght of the consumer, some people manage to keep them within reasonable limits, others can fall prey and get caught in a spiral to the worst. Be very aware of what kind of person you are before letting them into your life.
I can not say I regret having done them, they can provide amazing experiences, and for one thing they can help experiencing prog music in a way which is unthinkable when being sober.
But they surely pose dangers. I never found weed particularly addictive, normal cigarettes or alcohol are much more physically addictive. What happens is that it becomes a lifestyle, when you and your friends consume drugs it becomes very difficult to stay away or control the magnitude, you are together so consuming becomes the norm, and one pushes the other and the magnitude or the kind of drug being consumed can easily get out of control. It's not the physical addiction but the "social" addiction which can become very dangerous.
I'm now 46 and I'm a "normal" person, with a good respectable job, I'm not a wreck. But I have some problems with memory, concentration, motivation, willpower etc. I will never be able to know how much these are related to my heavy consumtion of drugs in my younger years but they could definitely be related.
And I stopped with illegal drugs but I still smoke and drink. I can not say for sure but possibly once addicted to something you remain addicted to something even if it's not the same "something". You just need some addiction to carry on.
Bottom line: as an avid user having enjoyed it for many years and still healthy, leading a normal respectable life (and never been in jail ) I can not honestly ban it, it would be hypocrite from me, but I guess it's better to stay away from it, and if you ever think about trying think twice before starting and most of all think of how strong you think you are to keep it within reasonable limits and not falling too deep, and be careful with friends, consuming yourself is one thing, but getting into a lifestyle where the norm of everybody around you is consuming is dangerous.
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Slaughternalia
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2011 Status: Offline Points: 901 |
Posted: November 30 2012 at 11:21 | ||||
I used to smoke daily, but stopped alltogether when I realized how bad it was making my anxiety
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I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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2WeeksInSpain
Forum Newbie Joined: November 25 2012 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
Posted: November 25 2012 at 19:19 | ||||
had a brief encounter with it. it was okay for a while but it doesn't really work for me
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zachfive
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:49 | ||||
You are absolutely correct, and I apologize if I offended you. It was a poor word choice.
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:47 | ||||
im not an expert in Your language, so i may sometimes not hit the correct values, but i think me point was clear.
Edited by tamijo - November 10 2012 at 14:48 |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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zachfive
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:45 | ||||
I'm a user of marijuana, not just smoker. And I can see where you cigarette analogy can be considered a choice, but next time try using the word "choice", like -" But you could like it so much, that you choose not to care, just like i do with cigarettes.
Don't implies a lack of, and a lack of caring is different from making a choice.
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:39 | ||||
That is correct, i thought you were a smoker, now that we know you are not, its a diffrent situation
BTW no need to call me ridiculous, you are not defending your life, we are just talking about
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:39 | ||||
I will bow to the expert.
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:36 | ||||
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:34 | ||||
But you could like it so much, that you dont care, just like i do with cigarettes.
That is making a choice. |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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zachfive
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:32 | ||||
Amen to that. Nice to see another person from the Olympic Peninsula on the forums.
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:30 | ||||
Must be some real bunco stuff if you gotta smoke 5 or 6 big joints a day, hope none of that stuff makes it to Washington state.
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zachfive
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:27 | ||||
Where did you say anything about it being a choice? What I read was that you had a negative experience with weed, said it was a waste of life, then applied that to everyone who smokes... And as for the joints, you are correct in saying that smoking (anything) is bad for your health. But marijuana can be consumed or vaporize with little to no negative health effects. I think it is you who are not taking a realistic view on things. Assuming everyones experience with weed must be exactly like yours' is ridiculous.
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:21 | ||||
I can tell you what a waste of life is...........putting people in jail for smoking it......and I believe that is the opinion of the majority of Americans.
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:15 | ||||
Edited by tamijo - November 10 2012 at 14:19 |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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zachfive
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:13 | ||||
Can you accept that people can smoke weed and not be wasting their lives?
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zachfive
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:09 | ||||
Probably: Almost certainly, as far as one knows or can tell. I said it was a poor word choice. If he were to simply say "It is my opinion that people who smoke weed are wasting their lives" I wouldn't even had responded, because opinions can not be refuted. But he didn't say that, he said that as far as he can tell, with almost certainty, that smoking is a waste of life. In addition to this he admitting that he hasn't smoked before, ever (not to be misconstrued as a bad thing) But I do believe that would make him ignorant on the subject of whether or not smoking is a waste of life. |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:09 | ||||
^Waste of time maybe, but waste of life? Nah!
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 14:06 | ||||
Now its my experince with Weed - happy ?
On a side note, if you want people to keep their opinions to them self, internet forums is just not the right place, it will never happen Edited by tamijo - November 10 2012 at 14:09 |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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