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sean 
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 Posted: July 13 2005 at 11:52 |
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i think soad's music contains many prog elements, but i'm not sure if they're truly progressive.
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 11:21 |
 seabre wrote:
If you're going to go into a "punk prog" area. The Mars Volta is the closest thing to that.. |
No they aren't. That would imply that The Mars Volta is a gray area between the two, but the Mars Volta is more progressive than many of the groups from the 70s. There are no punk elements in the Mars Volta's music. They play loud and fast, so does Dream Theater. Are they a punk band?
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 11:16 |
Retroventuremod wrote:
I am sort of surprised at the lack of them being on this site, coz they are somewhat proggish, they have a lot of changes in the middle of songs from quiet to loud, to fast to slow etc.
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That's not progressive. System of a Down usually play thrashing metal music. They never play any different times and they never really change keys. They don't do anything that hasn't been done before.
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Hangedman
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 10:58 |
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SOAD imo is a hard alt-rock revival band. The songs are well structured, lyrics horrible(message however not bad), and a good level of musicmanship. Prog? not really, I mean they dont have any symphonic qualities, no jazz influences, and it certainly isnt psychadelic or post rock.
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Astaroth
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 09:47 |
SOAD is a good band of nu metal, they are different from the others because of the arabic influences. The fact that their music is more elaborated(sometimes) than other nu metal bands and that there're some time changes doesn't mean that they're prog.
And the same goes for Green day, punk opera doesn't mean prog.
P.D: I like some stuff from SOAD and green day, I used to have some SOAD cds but I gave them to my brother.
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xhamasaki
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 09:08 |
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they have some prog elements to their music, I don't particularly like them THAT much, but unlike other people on this website,just because i dont like a band doesnt mean they aren't "prog".
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goose
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 09:06 |
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Anyone who thinks SOAD are just another popular band clearly hasn't listened to them properly. Whether they're prog or not is less obvious (I don't think they are at all), but stylistically they do all sorts of things to seperate them from anything else out there in the mainstream. There're even echoes of Thought Industry at times...
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 08:53 |
They are not prog, but they are definitely progressive compared to most popular bands this day in age. It really is pretty amazing that they are as popular as they are given their bizzare music. I like them very much, and they are not prog, but they are also Not Just Another Metal Band.
As for tool, they are definitely prog. If you disagree, please go read the definition of prog rock as written on this very site, then listen to Lateralus from start to finish and realize the folly of your ways.
Don't judge a band by what you hear on mainstream radio. often misleading. I used to think Yes sucked because the only song I'd ever heard was Owner of a Lonely Heart.
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Plenilunio
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 01:49 |
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I don't think "weird" time signatures makes a prog band. I suposse SOAD musicians have some influences from prog bands, but that doesn't make them prog. I think the same about Tool, they aren't prog, just a good rock band above average.
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AtomHeartMother
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Posted: July 13 2005 at 00:59 |
If they arn't prog, they deffinettly have progressive qualities to them, just listen to the whole album Toxicity. It's not prog, but atleast each song sounds comletely different, and its hard not finding repetivness in a pop band. They are very different from pop though, I tell you listen to that album, they are much more creative than any other metal band, not saying their prog. but they are not pop. And just like all prog albums, this is the only pop album I had to repeatedly listen to till I finally like it, cant find that in pop. They change too, each album sounds very different from the other, so they are proggressing as a band, no question about it, but they arn't progressing music as a whole much, mabey a little.
They are for sure more prog then Mettalica, and I have seen a few of Mettalica's albums on this web site.
Not prog, but sure as hell not pop.
Edited by AtomHeartMother
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The Minstrel
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:59 |
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Just because Green Day wrote a concept album, it doesn't mean they are prog.
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bamba
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:45 |
Is like you dare to call coolios music prog
and I say, dear pals, it is just like give Regards of love to the devil
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Man With Hat
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:34 |
cold103 wrote:
No. Aren't they that band that has a song with the lyric "my dick is bigger than yours", or something? No offense but I think they pretty much suck from what I've heard- Just another mainstream band..
Also- that song Sugar was like 2 minutes right? Wow, their songs are almost as lengthy as Green Day's!
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Just to get the fact straight: The lyric is "My cock is much bigger than yours". And Sugar is 2:33 (alright so you were closer there but still). Just clearing that up. But i agree that they are not prog.
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bamba
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:34 |
That magazine is doing reviews in a very humoristic way 
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seabre
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:33 |
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Rollingstone....sucks.
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Retroventuremod
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:31 |
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Green Day is NOT PROG!!!!! [/QUOTE]
i know i cant stand them - i never considered them prog - but i read a
review on rollingstone.com that compared it to relayer by yes 
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seabre
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:29 |
alan_pfeifer wrote:
I see alot more of what many of you consider "prog" in them. Just because they write 3 minute songs doesn't ,mean they suck. They tend to cram alot into the songs. |
Oh. Ok.
That makes Blink 182 prog too, I guess.
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bamba
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:27 |
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they even suck more than Nigthwish
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bamba
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:26 |
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 23:25 |
I see alot more of what many of you consider "prog" in them. Just because they write 3 minute songs doesn't ,mean they suck. They tend to cram alot into the songs.
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