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zumacraig 
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 Posted: February 08 2012 at 16:43 |
 Wanorak wrote:
Benoit David probably strained his voice trying to sing higher than his natural voice goes! Hope he recovers soon and we get another great Mystery album. IMO the last two Mystery albums were better than the last couple of Yes albums. Unless they decide to try and create something fresh they should quit. |
yeah, new mystery would be cool. i don't get why these dudes don't use octave pedals on their voice. i know joe perry from def leopard uses one and it sounds great. at leas some pitch correction. the harmonies were pretty rough with Yes last summer. Geddy lee should use one too,
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 16:40 |
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zumacraig wrote:
your dream setlist for australia is mine too. i have to say, seeing them with benoit was fun in that i got to hear tempus fugit. i would just freak if they played machine messiah or parallels! hell, how about Release Release!
btw, i love Man You Always Wanted Me To Be. how can you not love Chris on lead vocal!  |
Hey Dude,
Right on about Release, Release. How bout Silent Wings??? And Dear Father & Then? Yes, the wife & I saw YES
with BD twice and it was fabulous to see Machine Messiah & Tempus Fugit live. JA simply refuses to sing that stuff.
I always support YES and go to as many shows as possible. The last 2 tours with JA, YES played the same exact setlist.
That sucked, first time for me that it felt like YES were spent. YES made that same mistake in 1978 & 1979, Same setlist. They broke up immediately after. What were they thinking about repeating their setlist AGAIN in the21st century???
YES seemed to have real problems with JA, and as a paying fan I was sick of seeing the same songs over & over again.
I hope if JA ever returns YES will do a worthwhile setlist. Some YES fans bitterly denigrate BD in YES, but at least
it was "fresh", not STALE like it had become with JA. It breaks my heart to say that.
About Chris Squire's "The Man You Always Wanted Me To Be"... Yes it is AWESOME to hear him sing, just not in
a Pat Boone style song. Plus, my wife & I, neither of us have recovered from seeing an overweight Squire in those super tight spandex pants at both recent concerts, showing exactly what "religion" her was. Yuck!!!!!!  |
squire is hilarious in his outfits. part of the fun i guess. i'd also add Future Times to the setlist. great tune.
my hunch is that we might see a classic line up pull together an album that is, hopefully, better than mediocre. then maybe a run of shows in london and new york. then they will fade away with yes and all the other projects that no one cares about...except maybe steve howe solo albums...i like many of those
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 16:19 |
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Benoit David probably strained his voice trying to sing higher than his natural voice goes! Hope he recovers soon and we get another great Mystery album. IMO the last two Mystery albums were better than the last couple of Yes albums. Unless they decide to try and create something fresh they should quit.
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 14:44 |
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RETIRE ALREADY! GO OUT WITH DIGNITY!!!!
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 12:41 |
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If there was ever one member of Yes that was NOT expendable, Jon Anderson is it. Drama was not bad, I admit, but it was far from their best album (I have not heard Fly From Here, so I won't comment on that).
I think the fact that they have to find tribute singers to take over for him pretty much says it all.
Still, I hope Benoit is okay and recovers quickly.
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This pretty much sums it all up well. Fly From Here is a good album, but no more.
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 12:19 |
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If there was ever one member of Yes that was NOT expendable, Jon Anderson is it. Drama was not bad, I admit, but it was far from their best album (I have not heard Fly From Here, so I won't comment on that).
I think the fact that they have to find tribute singers to take over for him pretty much says it all.
Still, I hope Benoit is okay and recovers quickly.
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 11:06 |
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I don't see the problem or the joke. |
Yeah, neither do I---this has been going on with Yes since the beginning of time---and someone recently pointed out that Benoit actually lasted longer than Banks, Moraz, Oliver, that Russian dude and some other members.
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 09:02 |
zumacraig wrote:
your dream setlist for australia is mine too. i have to say, seeing them with benoit was fun in that i got to hear tempus fugit. i would just freak if they played machine messiah or parallels! hell, how about Release Release!
btw, i love Man You Always Wanted Me To Be. how can you not love Chris on lead vocal! |
Hey Dude,
Right on about Release, Release. How bout Silent Wings??? And Dear Father & Then? Yes, the wife & I saw YES
with BD twice and it was fabulous to see Machine Messiah & Tempus Fugit live. JA simply refuses to sing that stuff.
I always support YES and go to as many shows as possible. The last 2 tours with JA, YES played the same exact setlist.
That sucked, first time for me that it felt like YES were spent. YES made that same mistake in 1978 & 1979, Same setlist. They broke up immediately after. What were they thinking about repeating their setlist AGAIN in the21st century???
YES seemed to have real problems with JA, and as a paying fan I was sick of seeing the same songs over & over again.
I hope if JA ever returns YES will do a worthwhile setlist. Some YES fans bitterly denigrate BD in YES, but at least
it was "fresh", not STALE like it had become with JA. It breaks my heart to say that.
About Chris Squire's "The Man You Always Wanted Me To Be"... Yes it is AWESOME to hear him sing, just not in
a Pat Boone style song. Plus, my wife & I, neither of us have recovered from seeing an overweight Squire in those super tight spandex pants at both recent concerts, showing exactly what "religion" her was. Yuck!!!!!!
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 08:46 |
“Yes, he has officially left Yes,”
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The future's uncertain and the end is always near. - Jim Morrison
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Posted: February 08 2012 at 08:42 |
@Harold:
Major thanks for the YES update: The big thing I read that Chris said:
"We will work together in the future...."
Sounds like great news to having Jon A. back! JA is legend for his refusal to play any YES he simply doesn't like so its logical for current YES to promote FlyFrom Here, then when that runs its course, have another go with JA!
I just hope JA & YES can come up with something fresh and not recyle the same old tour like they are wont to do.
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 21:43 |
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Was I the only one hoping for a Scott Stapp recruitment? |
I was more hoping for the Nickelback guy
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 20:16 |
leonalvarado wrote:
My latest post discusses to a point the musical chair situation with the band's singing position.
Enjoy |
Nicely done, thank you! I commented to your blog as well. You did well to point out that a weekend trib-band vocalist doesn't have the training or stamina to maintain the grind of an international tour, and the collapse of Benoit's windpipes was really to be expected.
Jon Davison better buy some insurance!! You don't want to catch a cold with THIS band! Cheers!
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 19:56 |
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thanks for the video. he does sound awesome. his voice is a true alto like anderson. david is a tenor at best and had to stretch for the high notes. btw, jon looks cool as well. and his name is JON! |
You are welcome! Damn, I still keep calling him "Davidson!" DAVISON!
I enjoy many prog tribute bands, and always saw them as potential talent pools for replacements in the case of some incident (well, Benoit was in a trib band, wasn't he? Two, if you count Yes!!)
My own nomination went to my chum Steve Carney of UK's "Fragile," he's got quite the Anderson vibe! Fragile can play anything & have performed TFTO in small venues, quite amazing!
I think it was Jon Anderson who foresaw Yes as being an entity that could keep going on through history, so Jon Davison's addition may be an evolutionary step. I never saw Benoit David adding much to the band besides a quick fill-in for Jon Anderson....Lord only knows if he can write, and his stage presence is lacking!
With time & age, other members of Yes are likely to retire, it is quite a mind game to play to think of potential replacements! I'd like to see the band rediscover its vibe & keep evolving, and Jon Davison may be the guy to do that.
As far as inviting Jon Anderson back in, he was pretty emphatic against that when I saw him play "The Voice of Yes" show in Illinois some months back. I believe he sees his future as teamed with Rick Wakeman and perhaps Trevor Rabin. Time will tell.
We could do worse than to have two highly talented bands on the prowl for old and new fans! I wish Jon Davison and Yes all the best. Just don't get sick, JD!!
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 18:37 |
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i hear ya. i do hope we get a few more albums before the end. without jon, it seems like chris and steve and alan for that matter, are freed up a bit.
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 18:36 |
dennismoore wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
i really like the entire Fly From Here album. i actually remembered and sung the melodies after hearing it. benoit sounds fine too. jon anderson's solo music is new age and not prog. his last album, survival, has some catchy tunes on it. he's more of a spiritual figure than a singer/musician these days me thinks. chris alan and steve will probably die on stage.
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Hi zumacraig 
You even like that tune "the man you always wanted me to be"? I heard that Chris Squire co-wrote that with Oprah Winfry...  That one forces me to run & hide under my chair and ponder a vow of listening silence.
Yeah, I agree, JA sees himself as some sort of guru. Since I actually pay $$$ to these artists and buy their CDs/DVDs
I really don't wanna get preached at, plus preachers are all over the TV and will save your soul for free!
Oddly, JA says he has written a prog epic and will have that out soon. Maybe he gets with YES to complete that piece???
Yes, I thought BD was great on Fly From Here, he is also great on Mystery's - One Among The Living. I too find
myself singing the melodies of FFH in my head. Good melodies are back in YES, I say that is a nice return to form.
Waaaay back Jon Anderson said YES was inspired by the harmonies of Vanilla Fudge. I say harmonies are cool. 
I AM very excited about Jon Davison joining YES for a spell. I would pay DOUBLE price for a live DVD with Machine Messiah, Astral Traveller and FlyFromHere & Parallels, "Live From Down Under"
Put another shrimp on the barbie, baby!  |
welcome dennis,
i'm pretty much a newbie here too. you dream setlist for australia is mine too. i have to say, seeing them with benoit was fun in that i got to hear tempus fugit. i would just freak if they played machine messiah or parallels! hell, how about Release Release!
btw, i love Man You Always Wanted Me To Be. how can you not love Chris on lead vocal!
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 16:50 |
My latest post discusses to a point the musical chair situation with the band's singing position.
Enjoy
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 16:03 |
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I don't think Yes keeps going for money alone---their music is timeless and there is nothing wrong with wanting to play it into their 80's if they can---jazz and classical artists do---some people in their 60's don't want to stop (sadly Bruford being the exception) ----and Yes want to be a WORKING band---recording every year and touring---they can't do it with Jon unfortunately as he is sorta semi-retired and wants to limit his work load---he works when he wants to or needs some money---Howe and Squire and White want to play and make music and stay alive not retire and stare at a wall.
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 12:51 |
zumacraig wrote:
i really like the entire Fly From Here album. i actually remembered and sung the melodies after hearing it. benoit sounds fine too. jon anderson's solo music is new age and not prog. his last album, survival, has some catchy tunes on it. he's more of a spiritual figure than a singer/musician these days me thinks. chris alan and steve will probably die on stage.
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Hi zumacraig
You even like that tune "the man you always wanted me to be"? I heard that Chris Squire co-wrote that with Oprah Winfry... That one forces me to run & hide under my chair and ponder a vow of listening silence.
Yeah, I agree, JA sees himself as some sort of guru. Since I actually pay $$$ to these artists and buy their CDs/DVDs
I really don't wanna get preached at, plus preachers are all over the TV and will save your soul for free!
Oddly, JA says he has written a prog epic and will have that out soon. Maybe he gets with YES to complete that piece???
Yes, I thought BD was great on Fly From Here, he is also great on Mystery's - One Among The Living. I too find
myself singing the melodies of FFH in my head. Good melodies are back in YES, I say that is a nice return to form.
Waaaay back Jon Anderson said YES was inspired by the harmonies of Vanilla Fudge. I say harmonies are cool.
I AM very excited about Jon Davison joining YES for a spell. I would pay DOUBLE price for a live DVD with Machine Messiah, Astral Traveller and FlyFromHere & Parallels, "Live From Down Under"
Put another shrimp on the barbie, baby!
Edited by dennismoore - February 07 2012 at 12:52
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 12:26 |
dennismoore wrote:
twosteves wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Apparently there is this guy, Jon Anderson, who sings the songs pretty well and knows "most" of their material.
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I think the boys really tried to work with Jon for years---(and I like Yes with Jon) but it always had to be his way or the highway---he never realized he needed the boys more than they need him---his solo stuff suffers from lack of Howe, Squire and White--it's rambling and self indulgent and tiresome---whereas Fly from here has some good stuff on it. ...but it took a long time for Jon to come up with something as good as that...the rest has been really hit or miss for a long time. |
@Horizons: Apparently there is this thing called money, I doubt B.D. was getting a full share and I guess that Alan,
Steve & Chris got most $$$ as keyboardist & singer got a road share (If anybody knows otherwise, please straighten me out here!) So getting JA would mean a big financial change and perhaps JA would want more than the others??? As I love JA dearly and there is no YES magic quite like his in the band, he does bring problems that blind JA fans just do not wish to consider. A big one is his refusal to sing a LOT of YES music...Also not sure if JA's health would allow all the flights from California to Austrailia and such... Yet, I still dream of a YES & JA tour before it is too late. Cheers!
@Seriously, I do LOVE JA but I agree with your above take completely. "rambling and self indulgent and tiresome" is exactly how I consider his stuff of the last 15 years plus. I tried to get into his live new CD with Wake-E-Mon and I couldn't. Too preachy, too simple, no good melodies. What happened to the magic of Olias??? Ok, now I am phucked, I commited the unthinkable sin, I actually criticized JA. God help me! But yeah, you are right about Jon, "hit or miss" I actually love the YES - Fly From Here suite and the last track on the record. Nothing YES has done since Silent Wings of Freedom tops Fly From Here suite, IMHO... I guess I am now 2X damned by the JA worshipers. Oh dear.... |
i really like the entire Fly From Here album. i actually remembered and sung the melodies after hearing it. benoit sounds fine too. jon anderson's solo music is new age and not prog. his last album, survival, has some catchy tunes on it. he's more of a spiritual figure than a singer/musician these days me thinks. chris alan and steve will probably die on stage.
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 12:22 |
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thanks for the video. he does sound awesome. his voice is a true alto like anderson. david is a tenor at best and had to stretch for the high notes. btw, jon looks cool as well. and his name is JON!
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