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Slartibartfast 
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 Posted: October 29 2011 at 16:47 |
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The greats are great because their music has been out there for a while and the music stood up to the test of time. Time will have to tell for the new comers.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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AlexDOM
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Location: Indianapolis
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 15:59 |
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Neal Morse rules period!!! Constantly puts out the most quality prog with lyrics that transcend everything!!!! The man is a legend.
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thehallway
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Joined: April 13 2010
Location: Dorset, England
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 15:29 |
It takes time to build up the reputation that the top ten have. They weren't so "holy" in 1973. In about 40 years you'll get a better picture of how deserving albums from the past decade have been of such ratings. Of course, the "classic" albums will then be 80 years old, and probably rated even higher by then. But it does balance out over time. Remember that rock music, in general, is still very young.
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Horizons
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Joined: January 20 2011
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 15:23 |
 timothy leary wrote:
Is Neal Morse a better candidate than wilson or does religion get in the way? |
Neal Morse is bad.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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harmonium.ro
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Joined: August 18 2008
Location: Anna Calvi
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 14:55 |
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Before we tackle the issue of new bands, we need to bring up some of the more experimental '70s stuff up in the chart to make some well deserved repairs. I mean, there are three CAN albums in the RYM top 15 for progressive rock, why can't we bring just one in the top 10?
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Warthur
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Location: London, UK
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 14:50 |
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Based on what I've heard of his solo career, I'd say that religion might be a factor, but even if you strip that out I find he's an acquired taste, musically speaking.
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timothy leary
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Location: Lilliwaup, Wa.
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 14:21 |
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Is Neal Morse a better candidate than wilson or does religion get in the way?
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Warthur
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Location: London, UK
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 13:58 |
I think dethroning the top ten is manifestly possible but extremely, extremely hard.
Most people here are going to agree that the old classic albums from the golden era of prog are great. They're the foundational documents of the genre, if you honestly don't like them then it's doubtful you'll spend much time on a prog site at all.
When it comes to newer stuff, there's going to be a faction of people who just don't like new stuff at all, a faction who like it but want it to sound like something clearly and obviously descended from the classic prog sound, and a faction who like new stuff and positively embrace new sounds that don't sound anything like older prog. It's going to be very, very difficult indeed to put out a new album which will be embraced by all parties to a sufficient extent that it breaks the top ten.
Still, as others have pointed out Steve Wilson might manage it.
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Wafflesyrup
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Joined: December 02 2009
Location: Tx
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 13:48 |
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You can't dethrone the King.
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Epignosis
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Joined: December 30 2007
Location: Raeford, NC
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 13:22 |
Horizons wrote:
Grace for Drowning could do it.
With popularity and the album being Swilson's Top 3 best works. |
Doubtful. Only three collaborators have reviewed it, and a large number of the five-star reviews pouring in are from folks just joining the site to give GfD full accolades (possibly a SW buzz patrol of some sort). Should a few collaborators express negative reviews of the album, the rating would drop significantly.
I have heard GfD once. It is a far cry better than Insurgentes, but I thought it was very uneven. However, it takes me a while to let music sink in, so my review (if I write one) will likely be a ways off.
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timothy leary
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 13:17 |
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If you look at these top ten rated albums and click on show all reviews a lot of the reviews are not really reviews but really ratings with words. They say nothing about the album other than I like it. Many even state what can I say about an album which has hundreds of reviews.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team
Joined: March 16 2007
Location: Boston
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 13:09 |
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I have all the top ten and listen to them all regularly except the Genesis & DSOTM which are all currently suffering from overplay.
I'd like to see the Anglagard and Harmonium in the top 10.
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Theriver
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Joined: March 13 2010
Location: Lisbon Portugal
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 13:01 |
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I have most of the top ten album but rarely listen to them
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darkshade
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 12:39 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
^ the best albums from the most rated. ;) |
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Horizons
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 12:38 |
Grace for Drowning could do it.
With popularity and the album being Swilson's Top 3 best works.
Edited by Horizons - October 29 2011 at 12:38
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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silverpot
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Joined: March 19 2008
Location: Sweden
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 12:37 |
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I'm eagerly waiting for a new album that will have the same impact as these top releases. Shouldn't that be considered as well when ranking an album?
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Horizons
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 11:19 |
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No.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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timothy leary
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 10:33 |
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So would you also agree perhaps some people rate these albums so highly just from peer pressure and not a true liking of the album?
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 10:31 |
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^ the best albums from the most rated. ;)
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timothy leary
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 10:31 |
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So are the top ten the best albums or really just the most rated?
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