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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Mars Volta. 

No Competition. 

But it is a competition. It really shouldn't be. The most innovative and consistent band in 20 years verses a good retro prog band.




But Beardfish are not a retro-prog band. If their latest album Mammoth is retro prog, then tell me where metal-ish riffs and growling show up in the 70s? Theyve also incorporated other modern elements as well. They also seem to take more Scandinavian influences than other "retro-prog" bands do. I accept that bands like the Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, etc are retro, but Beardfish seem to be doing the opposite.

I agree about The Mars Volta though...


You don't need to put out full-blown copies to be a retro artist.


I'm just saying their influences are not as blatantly obvious as some other artists seem to have a problem with (well, besides their Zappa influence)
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Mars Volta. 

No Competition. 

But it is a competition. It really shouldn't be. The most innovative and consistent band in 20 years verses a good retro prog band.




But Beardfish are not a retro-prog band. If their latest album Mammoth is retro prog, then tell me where metal-ish riffs and growling show up in the 70s? Theyve also incorporated other modern elements as well. They also seem to take more Scandinavian influences than other "retro-prog" bands do. I accept that bands like the Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, etc are retro, but Beardfish seem to be doing the opposite.

I agree about The Mars Volta though...


You don't need to put out full-blown copies to be a retro artist.
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It's such a shame that one of these two bands has to lose that early...I hope Beardfish wins this...they may not be as innovative as TMV, but their music is a much greater pleasure to listen to in my opinion. 

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Originally posted by digdug digdug wrote:

Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Mars Volta. 

No Competition. 

But it is a competition. It really shouldn't be. The most innovative and consistent band in 20 years verses a good retro prog band. The Mars Volta should leave Beardfish in the dust. But no - once again, the PA hoards pile in in droves to vote, when they clearly don't listen to both bands, an important criteria if we're supposed to be judging between the two.

Don't just vote for the band you've heard of. If you can only say you listen to one of the two bands, don't vote. You're the reason that this competition is already decided.






dude....  more people on this site have heard TMV than  Beardfish

I doubt there  are many votes from ppl who have heard Beardfish and not TMV
Probably more votes from people who love TMV and have never heard Beardfish

I respect TMV for being different but I don't like to listen to them

just because you think they are better does not automatically make them better

Beardfish is not a copycat band in any way and deserves respect as well



Did I not say they were good? I have all their albums and listen to them regularly.

And the only reason I am annoyed is the fact that this competition has already been decided. PT will win because, let's face it' more people have heard them. People vote for the band they've heard, even if they have never heard the other band.

I also agree that many people hate TMV for being popular with a mainstream audience, so I suspect that people are voting against them for that very reason.
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It's tied? Really????? I sense that Volta might be a George Bush band, with people voting against them, rather than for Beardfish. anyway, Volta! The Mars Volta!! Why aren't they ahead by 20?
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Beardfish to even the scores
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Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Mars Volta. 

No Competition. 

But it is a competition. It really shouldn't be. The most innovative and consistent band in 20 years verses a good retro prog band. The Mars Volta should leave Beardfish in the dust. But no - once again, the PA hoards pile in in droves to vote, when they clearly don't listen to both bands, an important criteria if we're supposed to be judging between the two.

Don't just vote for the band you've heard of. If you can only say you listen to one of the two bands, don't vote. You're the reason that this competition is already decided.






dude....  more people on this site have heard TMV than  Beardfish

I doubt there  are many votes from ppl who have heard Beardfish and not TMV
Probably more votes from people who love TMV and have never heard Beardfish

I respect TMV for being different but I don't like to listen to them

just because you think they are better does not automatically make them better

Beardfish is not a copycat band in any way and deserves respect as well
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Tied it again. TMV are one of those bands that I just don't get.
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Broke the tie in favour of TMV.
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Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Who has the tie-breaking advantage?


The Mars Volta
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Situation on battlefield is changing at any moment. Wink
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Beardfish must win. BTW, I just broke the tie, and to be honest, I'm kinda drooling about Beardfish winning this tough match. I like TMV though, but I think they lost their 'magic' after Frances The Mute. Beardfish has only grown with time, their last 4 albums are personal favourites, with Destined Solitaire as the shiniest star.
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God damn, two of my favourite bands. I won't vote when they're this close.
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This is not quite but almost as exciting as SB vs. GY!BE (and for god's sake don't start complaining about the outcome of that poll).
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Holy crap it's tied. This is thrilling.
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Out of all "retro" bands, i can honestly say that i think they are the only band that still sounds fresh and exciting.

Both Sleeping in Traffic albums and Destined Solitaire sound innovative and fun to me, their Gentle Giant influence is their but what's wrong with influences?

Also, i agree about their accessibility. Unlike The Mars Volta, they don't have any aspects that can alienate the listener. So they will easily harvest more votes.

Though i think The Mars Volta should win, i'm unsure about the results. 


Some honest criticism:

Next time try to match bands with similar popularity and "oddness" (i'm lacking a better word..)

Having bands like Sleeptime Gorilla Museum go against any "mainstream" prog act will have obvious results. So matches like..

SGM vs  Art Zoyd, might be a bit better.


 
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At a glance, it looks like TMV
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Who has the tie-breaking advantage?
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Wow tied... Haha its a tied game for me too, voted Beardfish Embarrassed


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