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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 16:27
^ You're very welcome...have fun!  The first time I heard it I fell out of my chair laughing LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 15:22
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

The entire song can be heard on disc 2 of the King Crimson Collectors Club #18  "Live in Detroit - December 13, 1971".  Fripp introduces it with, "This is for our manager David".  At one point in his blues wailing, Boz sings, "I'm here and I've been caught with the crimson thing in my hand".  After the end, the audience is very quiet so Ian Wallace asks the crowd, "Are you satisfied?   Are you baffled?"

Completely brilliant LOL

Thanks very much for that information TCK!

The weird thing is that I've actually got that CD - it's in my pile of stuff waiting to be listened to . I'd not realised it had this version on it, though. So I'm off to listen to it now...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 14:14
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

The version of King Crimson featuring Boz Burrell, Ian Wallace and Mel Collins became pretty saturated in jazz, blues and R&B - much more than Fripp wanted them to be, which contributed to the demise of that lineup. Some of the live recordings are definitely worth it if this interests you. There's a teasing excerpt at the end of Ladies of the Road (disc 1) where they play the opening bars of In The Court of the Crimson King as an electric blues in the style of John Lee Hooker. Would have loved to hear more of that!

The entire song can be heard on disc 2 of the King Crimson Collectors Club #18  "Live in Detroit - December 13, 1971".  Fripp introduces it with, "This is for our manager David".  At one point in his blues wailing, Boz sings, "I'm here and I've been caught with the crimson thing in my hand".  After the end, the audience is very quiet so Ian Wallace asks the crowd, "Are you satisfied?   Are you baffled?"

Then they go into this incredibly quiet and gentle version of "Lady of the Dancing Water"...

Completely brilliant LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 08:51
The version of King Crimson featuring Boz Burrell, Ian Wallace and Mel Collins became pretty saturated in jazz, blues and R&B - much more than Fripp wanted them to be, which contributed to the demise of that lineup. Some of the live recordings are definitely worth it if this interests you. There's a teasing excerpt at the end of Ladies of the Road (disc 1) where they play the opening bars of In The Court of the Crimson King as an electric blues in the style of John Lee Hooker. Would have loved to hear more of that!

Also of note is the Live at Summit Studios recording of this band - unusual because they played without mellotron and the resulting stripped-down sound is less 'proggy' and more jazzy / bluesy as a result. This recording also has them covering Pharaoh Sanders' The Creator Has A Master Plan which is something to hear.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2013 at 12:32
...ought to be mentioned ...






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2013 at 06:13
Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

The first time BB King met and heard David Gilmour play, he asked, _ Sure you weren't born in Mississippi?  So, I guess Floyd must be a progressive blues band. And in that vein, some of their followers must be considered as prog blues as well. Like Porcupine Tree and Riverside.  



Progressive Blues always seemed a contradiction in terminis to me. Nevertheless, blues lay at the roots of Pink Floyd: the band was named after two blues musicians, Pink Anderson and Floyd Council.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2013 at 06:03
Originally posted by AreYouHuman AreYouHuman wrote:

Peter Gabriel - Waiting for the Big One
Steve Hackett - Let Me Count the Ways


Both are the masterpieces
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 21:56

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 21:50
Peter Gabriel - Waiting for the Big One
Steve Hackett - Let Me Count the Ways
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 21:16
Speaking of Robin Trower, I think you really have to look at Jimi Hendrix for the manner in which he stretched the blues into amazing soundscapes:



How about Baroque blues?



And if this can't be considered "progressive blues" I don't know what is:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 20:13
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:


You can't mention Robin Trower in this thread without giving credit to where he came from...Procol Harum.  Some of their proggy songs sit smack up against straight blues numbers like "Seem To Have The Blues All The Time", "Juicy John Pink", "Something Following Me", "Taking the Time", etc...Great band...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 15:36



Those great progressive blues rock songs ought to be mentioned Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 14:19
The first time BB King met and heard David Gilmour play, he asked, _ Sure you weren't born in Mississippi? 

So, I guess Floyd must be a progressive blues band. And in that vein, some of their followers must be considered as prog blues as well. Like Porcupine Tree and Riverside.
  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 11:36
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


I'm not sure how one can sound like Robert Johnson, BB King, or Muddy Waters and be 'progessive' at the same time.

Maybe some one else can cite an artist doing 'prog blues' ala the old timers...?




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I just wanna see someone like Robert Johnson mixing in classical vibes and continually going further and further away from the beaten path. It would probably need to be a modern artist to have all those types of flavors.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 11:25
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Gary Clark Jr., The Black Keys
 
I'm a big fan of Gary Clark Jr's album, but some of it is retro rather than progressive. I'm not an expert on The Black Keys but what I've heard sounds like a rehash of early T.Rex to me.
 
 
Compared to trad blues they and others are 'progressive' in that they are doing an update on the blues but I don't fundamentally disagree with you, but I don't hear T Rex in the Black Keys.
To me  'progressive' blues or blues rock are the bands already mentioned here and they stray from straight blues.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 06:49
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Gary Clark Jr., The Black Keys
 
I'm a big fan of Gary Clark Jr's album, but some of it is retro rather than progressive. I'm not an expert on The Black Keys but what I've heard sounds like a rehash of early T.Rex to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2013 at 18:26
At the risk of giving Pedro apoplexy (again) I can only state The Groundhogs (again), because they were a blues rock band (white English dudes for sure, but they were John Lee Hooker's backing band in the early 60s) and they produced albums that extended the format in progressive ways - marked by their album "Blues Obituary" where they symbolically and musically buried traditional 12-bar blues. They were even marketted as "Progressive Blues Rock" in the late 60s.
 
Another band that comes to mind (because they've been suggested for inclusion here several times [and rejected]) is teh Edgar Broughton Band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2013 at 17:13
Getting back to the original thread title -blues is a stylized traditional sound and for it to be 'progressive' it would no longer be blues per se....
I think many prog blues rock bands have been mentioned so far in the thread, and there are many modern blues artists who have 'reinvented' the blues genre so to speak yet are still in the blues tradition: Joe Bonnamassa, Gary Clark Jr., The Black Keys, Alabama Shakes, etc.
I'm not sure how one can sound like Robert Johnson, BB King, or Muddy Waters and be 'progessive' at the same time.
I listened to Wishbone Ash today and for me that's 'progressive blues'.
Maybe some one else can cite an artist doing 'prog blues' ala the old timers...?
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