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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 16:27 | |
^ You're very welcome...have fun! The first time I heard it I fell out of my chair laughing
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Mascodagama
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 15:22 | |
Thanks very much for that information TCK! The weird thing is that I've actually got that CD - it's in my pile of stuff waiting to be listened to . I'd not realised it had this version on it, though. So I'm off to listen to it now... Cheers! |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 14:14 | |
The entire song can be heard on disc 2 of the King Crimson Collectors Club #18 "Live in Detroit - December 13, 1971". Fripp introduces it with, "This is for our manager David". At one point in his blues wailing, Boz sings, "I'm here and I've been caught with the crimson thing in my hand". After the end, the audience is very quiet so Ian Wallace asks the crowd, "Are you satisfied? Are you baffled?" Then they go into this incredibly quiet and gentle version of "Lady of the Dancing Water"... Completely brilliant
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Mascodagama
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 08:51 | |
The version of King Crimson featuring Boz Burrell, Ian Wallace and Mel Collins became pretty saturated in jazz, blues and R&B - much more than Fripp wanted them to be, which contributed to the demise of that lineup. Some of the live recordings are definitely worth it if this interests you. There's a teasing excerpt at the end of Ladies of the Road (disc 1) where they play the opening bars of In The Court of the Crimson King as an electric blues in the style of John Lee Hooker. Would have loved to hear more of that!
Also of note is the Live at Summit Studios recording of this band - unusual because they played without mellotron and the resulting stripped-down sound is less 'proggy' and more jazzy / bluesy as a result. This recording also has them covering Pharaoh Sanders' The Creator Has A Master Plan which is something to hear. Edited by Mascodagama - July 06 2013 at 08:52 |
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Svetonio
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Posted: July 04 2013 at 12:32 | |
...ought to be mentioned ...
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Posted: July 04 2013 at 06:13 | |
Progressive Blues always seemed a contradiction in terminis to me. Nevertheless, blues lay at the roots of Pink Floyd: the band was named after two blues musicians, Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. Edited by someone_else - July 04 2013 at 06:13 |
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Svetonio
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Posted: July 04 2013 at 06:03 | |
Both are the masterpieces |
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Svetonio
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 21:56 | |
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 21:50 | |
Peter Gabriel - Waiting for the Big One
Steve Hackett - Let Me Count the Ways |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 21:16 | |
Speaking of Robin Trower, I think you really have to look at Jimi Hendrix for the manner in which he stretched the blues into amazing soundscapes:
How about Baroque blues? And if this can't be considered "progressive blues" I don't know what is: |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 20:13 | |
You can't mention Robin Trower in this thread without giving credit to where he came from...Procol Harum. Some of their proggy songs sit smack up against straight blues numbers like "Seem To Have The Blues All The Time", "Juicy John Pink", "Something Following Me", "Taking the Time", etc...Great band...
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Svetonio
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 15:36 | |
Those great progressive blues rock songs ought to be mentioned
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silverpot
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 14:19 | |
The first time BB King met and heard David Gilmour play, he asked, _ Sure you weren't born in Mississippi?
So, I guess Floyd must be a progressive blues band. And in that vein, some of their followers must be considered as prog blues as well. Like Porcupine Tree and Riverside. |
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Smurph
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 11:36 | |
THIS I just wanna see someone like Robert Johnson mixing in classical vibes and continually going further and further away from the beaten path. It would probably need to be a modern artist to have all those types of flavors. |
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dr wu23
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 11:25 | |
Compared to trad blues they and others are 'progressive' in that they are doing an update on the blues but I don't fundamentally disagree with you, but I don't hear T Rex in the Black Keys.
To me 'progressive' blues or blues rock are the bands already mentioned here and they stray from straight blues.
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chopper
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 06:49 | |
I'm a big fan of Gary Clark Jr's album, but some of it is retro rather than progressive. I'm not an expert on The Black Keys but what I've heard sounds like a rehash of early T.Rex to me.
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Dean
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Posted: July 02 2013 at 18:26 | |
At the risk of giving Pedro apoplexy (again) I can only state The Groundhogs (again), because they were a blues rock band (white English dudes for sure, but they were John Lee Hooker's backing band in the early 60s) and they produced albums that extended the format in progressive ways - marked by their album "Blues Obituary" where they symbolically and musically buried traditional 12-bar blues. They were even marketted as "Progressive Blues Rock" in the late 60s.
Another band that comes to mind (because they've been suggested for inclusion here several times [and rejected]) is teh Edgar Broughton Band.
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dr wu23
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Posted: July 02 2013 at 17:13 | |
Getting back to the original thread title -blues is a stylized traditional sound and for it to be 'progressive' it would no longer be blues per se....
I think many prog blues rock bands have been mentioned so far in the thread, and there are many modern blues artists who have 'reinvented' the blues genre so to speak yet are still in the blues tradition: Joe Bonnamassa, Gary Clark Jr., The Black Keys, Alabama Shakes, etc.
I'm not sure how one can sound like Robert Johnson, BB King, or Muddy Waters and be 'progessive' at the same time.
I listened to Wishbone Ash today and for me that's 'progressive blues'.
Maybe some one else can cite an artist doing 'prog blues' ala the old timers...?
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Svetonio
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Posted: July 01 2013 at 23:50 | |
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