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KingCrimson250
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 29 2008 Status: Offline Points: 573 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 22:27 | |
I find myself more taking issue with non-prog output by prog artists. For example, Miles Davis is quite possibly the most important single figure of the Fusion movement. And Kind of Blue is one of the greatest albums ever made. But as it stands now, Kind of Blue is ranked as the third best jazz/rock album and the 32nd greatest progressive rock album of all time. Which just seems weird.
It also seems a little unfair to submit albums like We Can't Dance and IT to the ravages of prog fans. I guess it's our chance to make up for all the rave reviews in the mainstream media, but you've got to admit that had the exact same songs been written and performed by someone other than Genesis, they wouldn't be on here. I don't know. This post isn't really constructive because I haven't got any better ideas and the current system seems to be better than drawing an arbitrary line as to which of a band's discography to admit and which to remove. I'm just ranting, I suppose. |
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JesusisLord
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 30 2006 Location: Hawaii Status: Offline Points: 320 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 22:22 | |
What is Prog anyway ?
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And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11
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Junges
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 19 2006 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 646 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 22:05 | |
A lot of power metal bands, a lot of folk bands and Radiohead.
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dreadpirateroberts
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 952 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 20:55 | |
That's a good point, I'd hate to see the Archives shrink. I like a lot of musical styles and when I'm not in the mood for something which might be called 'straight prog' (if such a thing exists) I come here and investigate all the related artists/genres. |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 20:42 | |
Nightwish is the only addition I find highly questionable and not surprisingly even the PM team more or less excuses itself from defending it. The rest may be CONTROVERSIAL, but there's at least some artsiness/progginess/innovation or what have you in all the names mentioned above or other favourite punching bags like Metallica. If you really want to get into what is 'objectively' prog rock - if at all, such can be established with a semblance of a consensus - the database would drastically shrink and what would be the point of that?
EDIT: The idea of listing just the prog albums of generally non prog artists (or for that matter the prog albums of artists who went pop ) is a good one but thought to be infeasible. Further, I don't think it would make the slightest difference to those reviews which you seem to allude to. Edited by rogerthat - July 05 2011 at 21:54 |
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TheGazzardian
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 11 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8737 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 20:34 | |
Why so negative? Just listen to what you like, because it's here doesn't mean you have to listen.
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 20:19 | |
Boo hoo.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 19:32 | |
Being an alternative rock band that makes an IDM record does not a progressive band make.
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-Radioswim-
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 15 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 19:28 | |
huh? Are you implying they are not progressive? |
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Mushroom Sword
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2010 Status: Offline Points: 426 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 19:25 | |
Radiohead.
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"I gazed into the eyes of the madman and I saw, and I saw,and I saw myself. |
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KarmaMan
Forum Newbie Joined: September 17 2010 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
Posted: July 05 2011 at 19:20 | |
You know, many of the so called 'prog related' Artists.
It can be galling to read clueless reviews and ratings by some Italian prog fanof Albums that have little or no 'prog' content yet you'd rather listen to them then 90+ % of the generic stuff on this site, make that 99.9% of Italian prog.
I know it goes with the territory of having them included in the first place but people like Bowie and Kate Bush I'd love to see removed for starters, they deserve better. I'd rather see a listing of recommended 'proggish' albums by non 'progressive' artists.
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