Why don't most people love our beloved music?

Because we don't even like most of it ourselves!

A national embarassment. Makes me sick to know that she is even within miles of me.

I'll drop my two cents on this. Honestly I've been listening to allot of different music lately, even popular music that gets played on the radio, it's bad but it's catchy and easy to listen to. I think that music sometimes can reflect peoples personalities and music can be very powerful weather we give it the credit or not. It definitely affects our thoughts, and when people are listening to "F@@k you I'll shank you" music, yeah that's kind of a problem. Why prog is seen as some sort of music savior I do not know, maybe because it makes it's listeners feel superior to a certain extent. Basically, it's music, enjoy it, who cares if no one else does. 

Alitare wrote: Prog_Traveller wrote: Because they are morons? ;) I just got back from Rosfest and there were maybe 600 people there. 600 people out of six billion(actually well over 6 billion). How many prog albums sell over 6,000 copies these days? Not many. Maybe if they weren't so stuck up on being unmemorable, melodically uninventive, needlessly complicated, and rehashed, maybe they'd sell better. ;)

Because they are morons? ;)

I just got back from Rosfest and there were maybe 600 people there. 600 people out of six billion(actually well over 6 billion). How many prog albums sell over 6,000 copies these days? Not many.

I am so glad that my friends don't refer to me as a progrock fan. They just say he's into all this wild sh*t. f**k prog. I love music that dares to go wherever. I actually hate this prog label.  Really I do. I love music.

rogerthat wrote: JeanFrame wrote: I suppose we have a liking for complexity and invention, whereas the mainstream tends to prefer familiarity and convention.  So why does the pop music of today sound starkly different from the pop music of the 50s? Uh, sure, there are retro acts trying to evoke the sounds of the past but that doesn't mean all pop music is exactly the way it used to be back then.  How much of today's pop music would have been found conventional 50 years earlier, I wonder.  These things are not so cut and dry and we have to also consider that not everyone has the stamina or energy to read and gather information about emerging music or less popular music so they get influenced by what the media promotes in the mainstream.  Perhaps, if something daring did get promoted in the mainstream, they may be more receptive to it than we like to believe.  Progheads in the current scenario can network with other progheads on the net and keep tabs on new prog acts but not all progheads keep pace with trends in other genres of music.  Some progheads are not interested in electronic music which is all over the mainstream, for instance.  It's tough, at the end of the day, to devote attention to more than one scene.

I don't mean the mainstream remains static; it tends to be dragged along by general progress, though digging in its heels.

Everybody kows the world has two types of music - my kind and every one else's. And even my kind isn't always so great - David Byrne

There. That pretty much sums it up.

I think this is a silly thread. So clear off, the lot of you.

JeanFrame wrote: I suppose we have a liking for complexity and invention, whereas the mainstream tends to prefer familiarity and convention.

So why does the pop music of today sound starkly different from the pop music of the 50s? Uh, sure, there are retro acts trying to evoke the sounds of the past but that doesn't mean all pop music is exactly the way it used to be back then.  How much of today's pop music would have been found conventional 50 years earlier, I wonder.  These things are not so cut and dry and we have to also consider that not everyone has the stamina or energy to read and gather information about emerging music or less popular music so they get influenced by what the media promotes in the mainstream.  Perhaps, if something daring did get promoted in the mainstream, they may be more receptive to it than we like to believe.  Progheads in the current scenario can network with other progheads on the net and keep tabs on new prog acts but not all progheads keep pace with trends in other genres of music.  Some progheads are not interested in electronic music which is all over the mainstream, for instance.  It's tough, at the end of the day, to devote attention to more than one scene.