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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 16:05
Back to cheesesteaks. Back to topic
I've never had a whizz version so I really don't know what I am missing. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 16:03
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Libertarian friends!

I've been thinking about the Fed.
Well, more like I've thinking about the price of everything and how it keeps skyrocketing. It's something that really chokes middle America, I know my family made some changes for 2012 to be in a better financial situation but the price of living has negated it largely.

I never really gave it thought, but isn't the Fed like...supposed to help with that stuff?
I'll admit, I really don't know much about it except generalities.
Soooo recommend me some reads gentlemen. I'm open right now, not necessarily removing it, but changing it maybe, but I just want some info.

What it does, impacts, theories on how it could be better (or what'd happen if removed outright). I'm all ears right now. I know Ron Paul has written on the matter.

edit: please no anti fed rants at the moment eitherLOL


Ron Paul's work on the matter is nice, but it's more of a populist low-level explanation than anything else. A nice easy text while still being formal is Murray Rothbard's The Case Against the Fed. You can read it for free through the link. It goes through the Fed's function, its history, and reasons for eliminating it. That's obviously taking the stand against it. For something more pro, there's a largely influential work which deserves reading: Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz's: A Monetary History of the United States 1867-1960.

You could read Bernanke's intro-macro economics textbook for a nice intro, and obviously pro, to banking and the Fed. I actually learned from Bernanke's textbook: Principles of Macroeconomics written in conjunction with Robert Frank.


I was hoping for something  legit though ideally not too difficult, so cool. Figured you of all would have some. I will probably pass on Paul then, for now.

Should've thought about FriedmanEmbarrassed
Thanks a lot man.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 15:57
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I think provolone on a cheesesteak to be something of an abomination. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 15:39
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Libertarian friends!

I've been thinking about the Fed.
Well, more like I've thinking about the price of everything and how it keeps skyrocketing. It's something that really chokes middle America, I know my family made some changes for 2012 to be in a better financial situation but the price of living has negated it largely.

I never really gave it thought, but isn't the Fed like...supposed to help with that stuff?
I'll admit, I really don't know much about it except generalities.
Soooo recommend me some reads gentlemen. I'm open right now, not necessarily removing it, but changing it maybe, but I just want some info.

What it does, impacts, theories on how it could be better (or what'd happen if removed outright). I'm all ears right now. I know Ron Paul has written on the matter.

edit: please no anti fed rants at the moment eitherLOL


Ron Paul's work on the matter is nice, but it's more of a populist low-level explanation than anything else. A nice easy text while still being formal is Murray Rothbard's The Case Against the Fed. You can read it for free through the link. It goes through the Fed's function, its history, and reasons for eliminating it. That's obviously taking the stand against it. For something more pro, there's a largely influential work which deserves reading: Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz's: A Monetary History of the United States 1867-1960.

You could read Bernanke's intro-macro economics textbook for a nice intro, and obviously pro, to banking and the Fed. I actually learned from Bernanke's textbook: Principles of Macroeconomics written in conjunction with Robert Frank.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 15:32
I think provolone on a cheesesteak to be something of an abomination. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 15:08
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

But an exception must be held for this Pat......someday I will have this.  Big smile  From Pat's south Philly

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Not to be a dick but I was there and quite unimpressed.
I've had better cheesesteaks outside Phlly!
Well, at least outside of that place, there may be other less known ones in the city that are better.

I'm not a big fan of the wizz version.  I likes me some provole.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 14:50
Libertarian friends!

I've been thinking about the Fed.
Well, more like I've thinking about the price of everything and how it keeps skyrocketing. It's something that really chokes middle America, I know my family made some changes for 2012 to be in a better financial situation but the price of living has negated it largely.

I never really gave it thought, but isn't the Fed like...supposed to help with that stuff?
I'll admit, I really don't know much about it except generalities.
Soooo recommend me some reads gentlemen. I'm open right now, not necessarily removing it, but changing it maybe, but I just want some info.

What it does, impacts, theories on how it could be better (or what'd happen if removed outright). I'm all ears right now. I know Ron Paul has written on the matter.

edit: please no anti fed rants at the moment eitherLOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 10:41
Rhetorical, of course, but brilliant response as always!

I know Paul wasn't so concerned with "winning" states anyway and had a strategy so we'll see. Which reminds me should get off my ass and register Rep, got till May but why wait? Never thought I'd say those words in my lifetime.
Or that it would be for Ron Paul.

If all this isn't a sign of the apocalypse I don't know what is.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 10:37
People who propose change will always be kept down and always have been aside from the few epochs in human history when the the perfect set of circumstances coincided to make the ground fertile for new ideas.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 10:33
Yo bro, if you ever get out to State College, you got a suggestion right there.

Also I assume Paul is still being kept down? I hate that Maddow but at least she's spoken of Paul's strategy, the bias against him and how he was screwed over in Maine.
From MSNBC! Wonder if Fox would ever talk of itLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 10:28
Yeah but I've still never had an edible cheesesteak outside of Philadelphia. It's a real stretch to imagine finding a good one. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 10:25
Naw it was better than Pat's.
I believe you just said yourself what it it's all about.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 10:23
Yo, it's not cheese sauce; it's cheese wiz. There's a big difference, and I highly recommend it.

Brian's lying. Actually, probably not lying just delusional.

Pat's makes some good stuff, but it's mostly just a tourist trap. You get to order in a funny way and see the pictures of all the celebrities who've eaten there.

For the real steak, the semi-orgasmic life altering experience, you go here



The roast pork is even better than the cheesesteak though. I would say the roast pork is probably the true philly sandwich.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2012 at 15:59
I forget, I'm pretty sure I got "regular" cheese and not the sauce (though I was told the latter was more traditional) but yeah, CC Peppers in State College (which is run by a bunch of Bostonians) had superior cheesesteaks!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2012 at 17:54
Yeah, my wife and I want real cheese, not cheese "sauce."  Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2012 at 17:12
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

But an exception must be held for this Pat......someday I will have this.  Big smile  From Pat's south Philly

http://www.erelevant.net/entry-images/pats.jpg

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Not to be a dick but I was there and quite unimpressed.
I've had better cheesesteaks outside Phlly!
Well, at least outside of that place, there may be other less known ones in the city that are better.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2012 at 16:58
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by aphelorah aphelorah wrote:

Cool thread you all have going here. I'm not sure if you all have seen this article, but this one pissed me off a lot: http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8762


Yes, I posted about that a few days ago.  I actually teach in that county.

In a county that makes a girl eat chicken nuggets instead of a turkey sandwich because the child's lunch isn't healthy enough, we had a pep rally on Monday.  One activity was an eating contest.  The first participant to consume the covered item would win a gift card.

The covered item?

A one-pound block of butter.  Dead
 
 
Did you win? LOL


Oh no, this was a competition among students.  Fortunately no heart attacks were had.

Brings to mind a riddle:

What's worse more, a pound of butter or a pound of beer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2012 at 16:55
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by aphelorah aphelorah wrote:

Cool thread you all have going here. I'm not sure if you all have seen this article, but this one pissed me off a lot: http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8762


Yes, I posted about that a few days ago.  I actually teach in that county.

In a county that makes a girl eat chicken nuggets instead of a turkey sandwich because the child's lunch isn't healthy enough, we had a pep rally on Monday.  One activity was an eating contest.  The first participant to consume the covered item would win a gift card.

The covered item?

A one-pound block of butter.  Dead
 
 
Did you win? LOL
 
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Yeah our diet should apparently be made up mostly of highly processed, nutritionally devoid grains and dairy
 
 
Mine is... well, that and meat.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2012 at 15:47
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by aphelorah aphelorah wrote:

And we wonder why we have such a problem with obesity in this country...

As I told one of my friends regarding the article, I went to public school. I have seen the stuff they pass off as food. They have no room to talk about nutrition.


I encourage you to check out the food pyramid we grew up on and had rammed down our throats.

6-11 servings of bread products?  Yeah, that's good advice.  Ermm

Of course, the question is whether or not the USDA's priority is the nutrition of a nation or the commercial interests of the crop industry.

I stopped listening to the USDA and the FDA a long time ago. Like most aspects of our current system, major corporations have too much influence. In this case, the pharmaceutical and dairy industries seem to be the groups that drive policy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2012 at 15:26
But an exception must be held for this Pat......someday I will have this.  Big smile  From Pat's south Philly

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