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darksideof
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 20:21 |
Lark the Starless wrote:
It's alright but, it needs some improvement...better than anything I could muster up though |
check it out.!
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http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/
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darksideof
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 20:18 |
Let see if you guys can notice the improvements or a bit changes that I just did.
Edited by darksideof - October 13 2010 at 20:25
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clarke2001
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 20:12 |
I don't like it, and it looks half-baked.
Why? 1. Well, I don't mind the change, and the collage, but first and foremost it clashes with traditional PA colours: it's blue - moreover it's Royal Navy Bule - and the rest of the website's surface is purple. If it had been purple (and/or orange) I wouldn't object.
2. The characters from the various album covers look they're cut out in papers and glued to the surface, not doing justice to the effort the designer did with blending, transparent layers, and authors drawing (as seen in the right corner).
3. In my opinion, it should be more sublime and less fanboyish.
4. It should 'melt' with the background, perhaps with some nice gradient on the edges, so that is not visible the banner is square, more like a hazy nebula without defined edges. Or, it may have the rough edges but then it must with the rest of the site's appearance.
5. I can forgive everything (and get used to) but I can't stand a smudge of purple colour that remain in 'P' of 'ProgArchives'.
There's more (as well as a few positive things) but enough of my criticism.
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darksideof
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 20:11 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 18:28 |
Hey dude, careless is two words unless you actually mean careless.... Well, I've changed my mind, the last time I looked at it, it sprained my eyes. Now I have no choice to sue. Either that or Wake Up Little Susie.
Edited by Slartibartfast - October 13 2010 at 19:09
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Evolutionary Sleeper
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 17:40 |
I like this one best.
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Stooge
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 17:07 |
Of the ones in the initial post, I like the 1st (the current header), 3rd and 4th ones the best for what my opinion is worth. The 6th and 7th ones work for me as well. As for the vote, the closest option for me is the 4th one. I like it, but I wouldn't be bothered by any tweaks if they are requested and implemented. I can't think what I'd change about it, maybe if the logo was centered??? I'd say "sharpen" the logo or something to that effect, but my graphic design jargon is rather rusty . I guess some of the character overlap of the logo is a concern, so maybe a more defined border around the lettering could hep (at least for where that Kansas guy stands). It's probably easier to leave it as it is than to try to decipher what I'm trying to suggest. I'm better off giving thumbs up or thumbs down with regards to these issues. In terms of better or worse with how the main page looks, I'll say better than from how I remember it.
Edited by Stooge - October 13 2010 at 17:20
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 17:05 |
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
TheGazzardian wrote:
I think this one is the best one compositionally. Visually, the other elements don't distract from the progarchives logo, which is nicely centered. The faces on either side are the most prominent of the other elements, and they face towards the center, so they really draw the eye to the logo. The background has lots of nice details, but they feel like the background. The only thing that maybe could be changed in this one is using some of the iconic album art used in the one we hav now - I don't actually recognise too much of what's in this one. |
You perfectly described my thoughts about it. |
I agree to the above. Also I think the header should more blend into its surrounding. The blue colour of the current header does not really fit to the surrounding violet colour, IMHO.
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GY!BE
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 16:58 |
It can be worse but it's definitly not the best one, it's a bit too much, simple is better.
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Dean
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 16:51 |
twinging?
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darksideof
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 16:38 |
darksideof wrote:
Viajero Astral wrote:
Arnold_Layne wrote:
Viajero Astral wrote:
From a designer point of view, I dont like it, it doesnt work well and is unprofesional. And no, the argument "art is subjetive" doesn't apply here because in graphic design (especialy web design) you have to take in mind a lot of aspects that doesnt have to do with your point of view. The header looks more like the typical "forum user signature", in fact, the other versions looks much better than the chosen one, but they still looks like a typical "forum user signature", or maybe they will look good as wallpapers.
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did you actually show it to a designer and ask for his opinion?
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Im a designer, so I can tell you the all graphic design work is more than just play with Photoshop, and I know my colleges, they will say worse things than I.
BTW, Im not saying is horrible, is just not good for PA.
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Believe me fellas I just don't only play with photoshop twinging. I am an Illustrator/ Painter/ graphic Designer. This Collage is only a tiny portion of my collages really are. I spent countless of hours in my collages editing and changing them all the time.
I edit the images in photoshop true, but I add vector color and something I even create the images in illustrator but in this case. I wanted to use iconic prog albums images. that is it! |
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darksideof
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 16:37 |
Viajero Astral wrote:
Arnold_Layne wrote:
Viajero Astral wrote:
From a designer point of view, I dont like it, it doesnt work well and is unprofesional. And no, the argument "art is subjetive" doesn't apply here because in graphic design (especialy web design) you have to take in mind a lot of aspects that doesnt have to do with your point of view. The header looks more like the typical "forum user signature", in fact, the other versions looks much better than the chosen one, but they still looks like a typical "forum user signature", or maybe they will look good as wallpapers.
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did you actually show it to a designer and ask for his opinion?
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Im a designer, so I can tell you the all graphic design work is more than just play with Photoshop, and I know my colleges, they will say worse things than I.
BTW, Im not saying is horrible, is just not good for PA.
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Believe me fellas I just don't only play with photoshop twinging. I am an Illustrator/ Painter/ graphic Designer. This Collage is only a tiny portion of my collages really are.
I edit the images in photoshop true, but I add vector color and something I even create the images in illustrator but in this case. I wanted to use iconic prog albums images. that is it!
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http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/
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yanch
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 16:35 |
It's okay, but so many of the cool band graphics included, that they are small and hard to enjoy.
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Bonnek
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 16:26 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
I don't like any of the options. The old logo really wasn't that great (I've never understood the font choice and color scheme), but all of those make it abrasive, jarring, and horrendously '90s. Just, make it all go away. |
horrendously '90s, that was the word I'm looking for. Besides, I don' like blue (a real 90s color) and there's not one kraut reference in it
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Paravion
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 16:03 |
I couldn't care less. It's ugly though.
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Viajero Astral
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 16:01 |
Arnold_Layne wrote:
Viajero Astral wrote:
From a designer point of view, I dont like it, it doesnt work well and is unprofesional. And no, the argument "art is subjetive" doesn't apply here because in graphic design (especialy web design) you have to take in mind a lot of aspects that doesnt have to do with your point of view. The header looks more like the typical "forum user signature", in fact, the other versions looks much better than the chosen one, but they still looks like a typical "forum user signature", or maybe they will look good as wallpapers.
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did you actually show it to a designer and ask for his opinion?
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Im a designer, so I can tell you the all graphic design work is more than just play with Photoshop, and I know my colleges, they will say worse things than I. BTW, Im not saying is horrible, is just not good for PA.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 15:45 |
TheGazzardian wrote:
I think this one is the best one compositionally. Visually, the other elements don't distract from the progarchives logo, which is nicely centered. The faces on either side are the most prominent of the other elements, and they face towards the center, so they really draw the eye to the logo. The background has lots of nice details, but they feel like the background. The only thing that maybe could be changed in this one is using some of the iconic album art used in the one we hav now - I don't actually recognise too much of what's in this one. |
You perfectly described my thoughts about it.
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Epignosis
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 15:42 |
There's no Epignosis in the graphic.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 15:41 |
Dean wrote:
Unfair Poll!
I don't like it, but I don't think it's crap, I just don't like it. |
Same here,sorry DSO.
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Dean
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 15:25 |
We'll have No Smirking here, this is a Smirkless Zone. If you want to smirk you have to go outside and smirk (and stand 15 feet from a entrance or open window)
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