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Posted: September 04 2010 at 20:19

Count me out too.

No Hip Hop in Prog Archives

Thanks anyway.

Iván

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 04 2010 at 20:31

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 20:13

Count me out! Wink

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 20:02

yes not all hip hop is money and ho's. if anybody on this forum would like im willing to put people onto hip hop, as you guys are helping me learn more of prog

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 19:19

Outkast, they made it to big Top 500 by Rollings Stones magazine, as far as I know. However so did Eminem, with his song that I see as a cover of Kashmir (Led Zep).

I'm extremely unskilled in hip-hop, so I don't have much knowledge about this issue.

There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 18:34

yes theres progressive hip hop. it's normally called alternative hip hop though and there actually are many alternative hip hop artists ranging from the birth of hip hop to now. a rapper named Wale made 2 concept mixtapes based on seinfeld. that's progressive imo. even jay-z has said his next album is going to be the most experimental album he's ever made. and also, groups like outkast and a tribe called quest are experimental in there music. i could go on and on.

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 18:23

ProgHiphop wrote:

I see many prog fans (not on this site so far though) say that hip hop is unintelligble and talentless. although this is true for some hip hop artists, there are many Hip Hop artists that are influenced by prog, sample prog songs, or use prog elements. here are some examples.

I would rather think that there aren't many artists like that, but more like "some" artists. Am I right ?

Samples, hip-hop themed covers are one thing, but what about something more, um, original ? More like Prog Hip Hop ? Is there out in wilderness of music something like that ?

There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:49

Oh, I meant "intelligent" and wrote "intelligible" instead :-)

Good taste is the enemy of creativity. (Pablo Picasso)

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:49

Problem I have with today's Hip Hop artists is they don't pay enough homage to the originators of hip hop....Its like they think they (todays artists) actually invented it. I don't listen to any of it, I truely feel its rubbish.

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:46

thank you snow dog. and i haven't heard of those people except for EL-P i'll check them out

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:37

There are some great hip hop interprets who are far more interesting and intelligible than the usual 50 Cent rubbish. Try Dalek, Nephlim Modulation Systems or El-P (no connection with Emerson, Lake & Palmer :))

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:36

Use the embed video function.....its somewhere there

Insert movie does it.

Edited by Snow Dog - September 04 2010 at 17:39

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Posted: September 04 2010 at 17:12

I see many prog fans (not on this site so far though) say that hip hop is unintelligble and talentless. although this is true for some hip hop artists, there are many Hip Hop artists that are influenced by prog, sample prog songs, or use prog elements. here are some examples.

Mahavishu orchestra- you know you know sample

King Crimson- 21st century schizoid man sample

name of song is misleading, there actually is subject matter.

Can- sing swan song sample and a 6/8 time signature, unusual in hip hop

king Crimson- Book of saturday sample

King Crimson- I talk to the wind sample........subject matter isn't great but i still respect the song

Gentle Giant- Funny ways sample, and MF DOOM (the rapper) usually raps offbeat, an element usually found in prog

Toto- Africa sample

A remix of tom sawyer done by DJ Z-trip

Apparently there's a pink floyd sample. i cant find one aside from the helicopter sound in the beginning. help would be appreciated.

Even DIDDY sampled alan parson's project in "the saga continues". i cant find the song though.

I'm sure theres more but i don't think its necessary to post anymore videos

what are your guys' opinions on the connection between hip hop and Prog?

EDIT: how do i embed video's on this site???

Edited by ProgHiphop - September 04 2010 at 17:50