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JLocke

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 22:27

TCat wrote:

I've listened to prog for many years. While going to school and obtaining my master's degree I listened to Prog while I studied for some exams. I am proud to say that I did NOT neccessarily do well on exams when I participated in that activity.

I think therefore I am. I am therefore I love prog. I also love a lot of the new indie-folk bands. Maybe you, dear reader, enjoy prog and hip-hop, what is that to me? We are free to love whatever music we want whether we are intellegent or not. That's the beauty of it.

Quite frankly, I think I love prog not because of my parents, my siblings (none of them like prog), my genes or any of that. I love it because of my piano teacher and her love of the classics which influenced me to listen to classical music and helped me appreciate progressive music. I was attracted to progressive before I even knew it was it's own genre. I just remember telling a friend many many years ago which bands I loved and she said, "It sounds like you love progressive rock." I had to ask her what progressive rock was, then I realized she was right.

I only know I love progressive music and that's what matters. May it always exist.

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 22:17

I've listened to prog for many years. While going to school and obtaining my master's degree I listened to Prog while I studied for some exams. I am proud to say that I did NOT neccessarily do well on exams when I participated in that activity.

I only know I love progressive music and that's what matters. May it always exist.

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 18:22

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What's funny is that over half of the members here on progarchives.com are morons. Yet, they all listen to "progressive" rock music.

So no, "progressive" rock and intellectualism have nothing to do with one another.

It might be rather insulting, maybe, but anyway,

Yeah, we really demonstrate our intellectualism when we mock the mentally retarded in order to insult each other. Guess I just don't have any taste.

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 17:59

I believe in Howard Gardner's multiple intelligence theory (american psychologist) :

There is not the only one general intelligence, one general ability of human's mind. It's possible to determine at least seven different types of intelligence :

1) mathematical-logical

2) verbal-linguistic

3) visual-spatial

4) bodily-kinesthetic

5) interpersonal

6) intrapersonal

7) musical-rhythmical - the ability to detect musical qualities of complex music or even the ability to compose music

The question is what kind of correlations exist between the intelligences. Or are they completely independent?

It's obvious e.g. some people with high verbal intelligence (writers, poets, translators) are not necessarily good in mathematics and vice versa, etc. etc.

On the other hand a lot of people seem to have substandard or above standard level of more types of intelligences.

My opinion is some correlation exists, at least some types of intelligence are not completely independent, but this correlation is not too strong.

So, that's my answer : we, proggers have obviously above average musical intelligence, due to certain correlation we (as a sample of population) are also above average in some other types of intelligence. I believe in it. But it's impossible to generalise more. Two different proggers are certainly very different in other aspects of human's abilities.

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 16:30

in discussing the meaning of words like "intellectual", "intellect", or "intelligence", one should always remember that there are different types of intelligence, and different facets to what one describes as the intellect or an intellectual-as i am learning myself from this thread, making generalisations about these matters doesn't always work! anyway, interesting talk

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 15:40

The T wrote:

It might be rather insulting, maybe, but anyway,

Oddly enough I don't see that ratio but then I might just be in the moron half. Ouch

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 14:37

Yes, mostly. There might be some other mitigating factors. I don't know that my IQ is actually that high but I was exposed to a lot of classical music growing up. Pop music just *bores* m for the most part.

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:59

Re my above post: just trying to inject some humor and levity, hopefully I didn't offend anyone

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:13

The T wrote:

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rushfan4 wrote:

With the few posts that I have seen from Nightshine I think that I have come to a conclusion to what half I think he is in.

Congratulations for the subtle insult there, my friend. Please, continue with your witty and charming remarks of which would absolutely bring us all to splendor and salvation as we try to look up to the person who made their screenname "rushfan4".

Pathetic.

That didn't have any wit and wasn't funny... Dead

Your last one was better... Wink

This man has taste!

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:12

Nightshine wrote:

rushfan4 wrote:

With the few posts that I have seen from Nightshine I think that I have come to a conclusion to what half I think he is in.

That didn't have any wit and wasn't funny... Dead

Your last one was better... Wink

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:12

At least with a name like that you know that I am not listening to progressive rock music. Just check out the threads by the other morons in these forums.

Edited by rushfan4 - May 21 2010 at 13:14

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:11

rushfan4 wrote:

With the few posts that I have seen from Nightshine I think that I have come to a conclusion to what half I think he is in.

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:11

Nightshine wrote:

What's funny is that over half of the members here on progarchives.com are morons. Yet, they all listen to "progressive" rock music. So no, "progressive" rock and intellectualism have nothing to do with one another.

Thank you Nightshine, it took 7 pages and somebody finally got the formula right.

Re the many comments about complication and difficulty in music:
The most difficult piece of sheet music I ever attempted was a piano piece by Schoenberg.
As far as bands go, I've played almost every genre you can name, the most difficult I encountered were Latin Jazz (Afro-Cuban) and Nigerian 'funk' (generically called world beat by many).

Edited by Easy Money - May 21 2010 at 13:12

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:10

With the few posts that I have seen from Nightshine I think that I have come to a conclusion to what half I think he is in.

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:08

The T wrote:

It might be rather insulting, maybe, but anyway,

depends which half you're in

What?

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 13:05

It might be rather insulting, maybe, but anyway,

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 12:54

What's funny is that over half of the members here on progarchives.com are morons. Yet, they all listen to "progressive" rock music.

So no, "progressive" rock and intellectualism have nothing to do with one another.

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 12:42

Rossini's finale from the William Tell Overture used to be the test for an Intellectual. Since that is probably outdated and only a test for age now - what would be the modern test? Verdi’s Dies Irae? Delibes’s Flower Duet?

If you can hear Copland's Fanfare for the Common Man and not think of Emerson Lake and Palmer does that make you an intellectual?

What?

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 12:24

Of course. But it is the intellectuals who use it so I guess is a very intellectual thing to do... Wink

Besides, the French-educated ones who started Year Zero were highly intellectual..

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 12:21

There ought to be something similar to Godwin's Law whenever Year Zero is mentioned in discussions on Intellectualism.

What?