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Dean
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 12:48 |
SergiUriah wrote:
Trianium wrote:
Ok, sorry ... forgive me if I've done has been stupid ... but i just wanted to say it is normal that you do not like Pink Floyd (each has their own taste of course) and if i do not like a band like the Rolling Stones or U2 for example i do not say they are overrated , and i recognize the importance that they have in rock history. ... in fact I think the term 'overrated band' is very 'overrated' ... there are groups and artists that i like a lot or not like anything. I can not belive in an overrated band .... i think the phenomena fanboy that only like one band and hate the rest is also stupid. | I did not say your example is stupid ... and I do believe in the bands "overstated" in movies as I believe overvalued. It is a fact. Just as there are groups that nobody bothers to come because they are barely known. In this forum you will see dozens of topics of great albums with just 2 answers .... And as for PF, the majority of their "social mass" of supporters are people who barely know what it means progressive rock. But they like an album, or just some songs, because that's all they've heard of that style. If I hear space rock, Hawkwind and I opted for his In Search Of Space, for example, although any valid example. Did not want to write in the language of Shakespeare ....
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Tough - the language of the forum in English.
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Edited by Dean - October 20 2009 at 12:49
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 11:55 |
it is the original fold-up cover from 1975. From the other side it looks like a shield. The black parts down below do not belong to the cover, so the whole cover is shield-shaped when unfolded.
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el dingo
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 09:59 |
Trianium wrote:
Ok compañero, pues hablemos en castellano... Estoy totalmente de acuerdo contigo en que los fanboys de Pink Floyd no saben una mierda (con perdón) de Rock Progresivo. Pero no me malinterpretes, yo soy fan de Pink Floyd (se nota no...) pero me encanta el Rock Progresivo y pienso que 'controlo' de esta música aunque en términos de edad sea un novato. Saludos.
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Muy bien puntos, mes amigos - me comprendo y no estoy de acuerdo. Floyd es mejor, vale
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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mithrandir
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 20:21 |
hawkwind,
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Trianium
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 13:38 |
Ok compañero, pues hablemos en castellano... Estoy totalmente de acuerdo contigo en que los fanboys de Pink Floyd no saben una mierda (con perdón) de Rock Progresivo. Pero no me malinterpretes, yo soy fan de Pink Floyd (se nota no... ) pero me encanta el Rock Progresivo y pienso que 'controlo' de esta música aunque en términos de edad sea un novato. Saludos.
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SergiUriah
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 11:57 |
Trianium wrote:
Ok, sorry...forgive me if I've done has been stupid ... but i just wanted to say it is normal that you do not like Pink Floyd (each has their own taste of course) and if i don't like a band like the Rolling Stones or U2 for example i don't say they are overrated, and i recognize the importance that they have in rock history. ... in fact I think the term 'overrated band' is very 'overrated' ... there are groups and artists that i like a lot or not like anything. I can't belive in an overrated band....i think the phenomeno fanboy that only like one band and hate the rest is also stupid. |
No he dicho que sea estúpido tu ejemplo...y yo sí creo en las bandas "sobrevaloradas", como creo en las películas sobrevaloradas. Es un hecho. De la misma forma que hay grupos a los que nadie se molesta en acercarse porque no son apenas conocidos. En este foro verás decenas de topics de excelentes discos con apenas 2 respuestas....
Y respecto a PF, la mayoría de su "masa social" de seguidores son gente que apenas sabe lo que significa el rock progresivo. Pero les gusta un álbum, o simplemente unas canciones, porque es lo único que han escuchado de ese estilo.
Si quiero escuchar space rock, me decanto por HAWKWIND y su In search Of Space, por ejemplo, aunque cualquier ejemplo es válido.
No tenía ganas de escribir en la lengua de Shakespeare....
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 11:48 |
Apologies for going off topic! (Sorry)
Edited by akamaisondufromage - October 19 2009 at 12:18
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Help me I'm falling!
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TODDLER
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 10:43 |
BaldFriede wrote:
All I have to say is:
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Is this an import fold-out album cover designed in 1975? Or is this from an import cd?
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Trianium
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 06:02 |
Ok, sorry...forgive
me if I've done has been stupid ... but i just wanted to say it is
normal
that you do not like Pink Floyd (each has their own taste of course)
and if i don't like a band like the Rolling Stones or U2 for example i
don't say they are overrated, and i recognize the importance that they
have in rock history.
... in fact I think the term 'overrated band' is very 'overrated' ... there are groups and artists that i like a lot
or not like anything. I can't belive in an overrated band....i think the phenomeno fanboy that only like one band and hate the rest is also stupid.
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A B Negative
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 02:59 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Well, There you go that's pretty conclusive Hawkwind are better cos they've got (had) Barney Bubbles RIP.
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Another poll: who's better, Barney Bubbles or Hypgnosis?
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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SergiUriah
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 20:03 |
Trianium wrote:
I have tried with PF several times, just to find that special and magic touch that everybody seem to appreciate...and well, answering to your words, if someone wants to have a solid opinion about a band, it´s obligated for him to LISTEN THEIR ALBUMS (incredible????!!!) .
And I don´t hate PF, neither their music. Simply I don´t understand why that band is so overrated and why everyone talk only marvellous things about them. When so few people talk bad things about a band, it may results suspicious...
And when a lot of people, a lot of musicians including: Rick Wakeman, Steve Howe, Phil Manzanera, Paul McCartney, Mike Portnoy, Steven Wilson, Ian Anderson, Pete Townshend talk about Pink Floyd as one of the bigger and most influential bands in history it may results suspicious.....
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Ok, 8 musicians talking marvellous things about PF, you´ve got THE REASON. I surrender to that solid argument!!!! Now I can see the light at least...
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Trianium
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 17:43 |
I have tried with PF several times, just to find that special and
magic touch that everybody seem to appreciate...and well, answering to
your words, if someone wants to have a solid opinion about a band, it´s
obligated for him to LISTEN THEIR ALBUMS (incredible????!!!) .
And I don´t hate PF, neither their music. Simply I don´t
understand why that band is so overrated and why everyone talk only
marvellous things about them. When so few people talk bad things about
a band, it may results suspicious...
And when a lot of people, a lot of musicians including: Rick Wakeman, Steve Howe, Phil Manzanera, Paul McCartney, Mike Portnoy, Steven Wilson, Ian Anderson, Pete Townshend talk about Pink Floyd as one of the bigger and most influential bands in history it may results suspicious.....
Edited by Trianium - October 18 2009 at 18:21
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The Block
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 17:28 |
BaldFriede wrote:
I like the Hawkwind cover because it has multiply layers. First of all it is a scene on a planet with two suns. Second it is a face behind a helmet. Third it is a female figure with bare breasts. And from the other side it is a shield.
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I see the first two but I don't see the third one.
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 17:25 |
Well, There you go that's pretty conclusive Hawkwind are better cos they've got (had) Barney Bubbles RIP.
Edited by akamaisondufromage - October 18 2009 at 17:31
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Help me I'm falling!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 17:15 |
I like the Hawkwind cover because it has multiply layers. First of all it is a scene on a planet with two suns. Second it is a face behind a helmet. Third it is a female figure with bare breasts. And from the other side it is a shield.
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The Block
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 16:46 |
True so true.
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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A B Negative
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 14:29 |
Pink Floyd never had fold-out album covers like Hawkwind!
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 11:42 |
All I have to say is:
Edited by BaldFriede - October 18 2009 at 11:45
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Bucsdude
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 10:32 |
Well they are marvellous their music is one of a kind... well not really but thier sound is so specific that it makes them great. I don't know about you t I don't know many bands leave the first 2-5 minutes of their songs with no vocals
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SergiUriah
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Posted: October 17 2009 at 21:01 |
Trianium wrote:
I really laugh when people say Pink Floyd is boring and they often listen them ...is curious really curious....if i don't like a group i don't listen his music, but Floyd is something magic, especial...people thath don't like Floyd listen to them and rate the albums in some webs only for his hate to the band.
It's curious when somebody say a band is overrated, because the ''overrated bands'' are always the most importants bands in rock history: The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, Queen, Floyd, The Who...
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I have tried with PF several times, just to find that special and magic touch that everybody seem to appreciate...and well, answering to your words, if someone wants to have a solid opinion about a band, it´s obligated for him to LISTEN THEIR ALBUMS (incredible????!!!) .
And I don´t hate PF, neither their music. Simply I don´t understand why that band is so overrated and why everyone talk only marvellous things about them. When so few people talk bad things about a band, it may results suspicious...
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