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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 18:05
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Very timely: just received this info. from Cuneifom (via the 'avant-progressive' Yahoo group):-

Forthcoming European live performance dates for Guapo:

September 18 - Botanique - Bruxelles, Belgium
Sepember 19 - Zxzw Festival - Tilberg, The Netherlands
September 20 - MTC - Cologne, Germany
September 22 - Magnet Club - Berlin, Germany
September 24 - Klub 007 - Prague, Czech Republic
September 25 - Arena - Vienna, Austria
September 27 - Sinister Noise Club - Rome, Italy
September 29 - Feierwerk - Munich, Germany
September 30 - Le Cab - Geneva, Switzerland

Various other bands of interest to PA people are also out and about, but that's not for this thread... Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 18:02
I heard Elixers. It was pretty nice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 17:59
Very timely: just received this info. from Cuneifom (via the 'avant-progressive' Yahoo group):-

Forthcoming European live performance dates for Guapo:

September 18 - Botanique - Bruxelles, Belgium
Sepember 19 - Zxzw Festival - Tilberg, The Netherlands
September 20 - MTC - Cologne, Germany
September 22 - Magnet Club - Berlin, Germany
September 24 - Klub 007 - Prague, Czech Republic
September 25 - Arena - Vienna, Austria
September 27 - Sinister Noise Club - Rome, Italy
September 29 - Feierwerk - Munich, Germany
September 30 - Le Cab - Geneva, Switzerland

Various other bands of interest to PA people are also out and about, but that's not for this thread... Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 17:35

Don't forget Æthenor either, Melissa. Wink  Yet another Daniel O'Sullivan project.  They have two albums currently.

I must try and find their CDs... I don't know what to expect yet.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 17:28
I reviewed Rashomon's CD on www.progressiveears.com.  I had quoted it here but I'm too lazy to redo that post after getting a forum error.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 17:15
Originally posted by James James wrote:

I've had Elixirs for a while and still haven't heard it... although I did hear a track from it.
 
Black Oni = brilliant
Five Suns = very good and I really like it too
 
Miasma... again, had the album and the EP for ages and still haven't spun them.  Maybe I'll spin Elixirs later, if I find time.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 17:06
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

IMHO Miasma and the Carousel of Headless Horses > Guapo.

Not a huge Guapo fan.  Five Suns would be pretty good if it weren't for the two closing tracks.  Black Oni never hit me.  Elixirs I found mildly interesting at best.

I will recommend the cd The Ruined Map by Rashomon ("pen" name of an ex-Guapo member/founder).

Oh well - to each his own! Smile

Great Scott, not another related project... Confused  But the description looks interesting.  Another for the list of things to hear! Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 16:54
I've had Elixirs for a while and still haven't heard it... although I did hear a track from it.
 
Black Oni = brilliant
Five Suns = very good and I really like it too
 
Miasma... again, had the album and the EP for ages and still haven't spun them.  Maybe I'll spin Elixirs later, if I find time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 16:30
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

The Twisted Stems EP is purely instrumental, and I think that there may have been some other tweaking for the album as well.
 
'Elixirs' is less immediate than 5 Suns or Black Oni but is probably their strongest album yet, very strong compositions and a quantum leap on from Black Oni. The last couple of tracks hark back to earlier incarntions though; The Planks could have come from Great Sage, Equal of Heaven (recently reissued) and King Lindorm has the kind of pounding intensity that makes 5 Suns and Black Oni so effective on stage.
 
If you dig around in the interviews section you'll find an interview I did with Guapo shortly after Black Oni was released. 

I enjoyed reading the interview, thanks for alerting me to it!  (It's here, if anyone else would like to read it!)  They seem pretty down to earth in the interview, in contrast to some of their PR spiel!

This really is fascinating stuff.  (Listening again this evening...)  I wonder what they'll do next...?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 16:19
IMHO Miasma and the Carousel of Headless Horses > Guapo.

Not a huge Guapo fan.  Five Suns would be pretty good if it weren't for the two closing tracks.  Black Oni never hit me.  Elixirs I found mildly interesting at best.

I will recommend the cd The Ruined Map by Rashomon ("pen" name of an ex-Guapo member/founder).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 16:18
^I think Black Oni benefits from being shorter, its allowed the band to be more concise with the arrangments and the result is it hits home a bit more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 16:15
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Yes. They are instrumental, different and better, I think. Well, The Selenetrope with Jarboe is great, but The Heliotrope is much better as a dark, loungy Baldamenti-ish  instrumental. I really love the EP (and Elixirs).

Cool, maybe I should pick this up...

My favorite is actually Five Suns. One of the handful of albums of the 00's I consider a real masterpiece. Never thought it was particulary similar to Magma, although its obviously Zeuhl-inspired.  My problem with the Guapo trilogy, if any, is that (although brilliant) Black Oni is too similar to its predessesor.

'Five Suns' has a LOT that sounds very like the climax to 'Köhntarkösz', and also a fair amount that reminds me of parts of 'Theusz Hamtaahk'.  I just played 'Five Suns' again this evening, and alongside the Magma borrowings, it's a bit repetitive for my liking.  'Black Oni' is the same style, but it seems better structured and more original to me.

The quite new Miasma EP Perils, is fantastic! A lot more interesting than their OK debut. Warmly reccomended.

The Miasma stuff is now on my shopping list! Big%20smile

The older Guapo albums is really by a different band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 16:08
Originally posted by Kim? Kim? wrote:


Favourite tracks are:
Black Oni III and V
Arthur, Elsie and Frances from Elixirs

Agreed, those are definite stand outs!  I'd pick 'Jeweled Turtle' from 'Elixirs' as well, though.

Originally posted by Kim? Kim? wrote:

I've ordered the Mothlite (project of Daniel O'Sullivan, but David Smith and Sara Hurich among many others are also participating) debut The Flax of Reverie, hopefully recieving it soon. From what I've heard on the website/myspace, it sounds very promising! Especially the track Riverside.

I'm also a fan of Miasma & the Carousel of Headless Horses, which sometimes reminds me of Guapo (not that strange, since all members of Guapo are present) with the folkish feel, that they ventured a bit into on Elixirs. The Miasma songs are a bit more focused and resolute, though, like The Planks (which by the by is a great tune!)

These people are unstoppably prolific!  How many projects is it now...?

I'm definitely going to check out Miasma - the description sounds intriguing and the samples I've heard are good.  Maybe I'll get around to some of those other bands too... Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 09:50
Five Suns and Black Oni have been getting a fair bit of play here recently, brilliant work and I love it, especially Black Oni.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 06:16
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Manfauna is the EP, Perils is the album, I think. Anyway, I agree, it's great!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 06:06
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


The quite new Miasma EP Perils, is fantastic! A lot more interesting than their OK debut. Warmly reccomended.


Manfauna is the EP, Perils is the album, I think. Anyway, I agree, it's great!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 05:44
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Dominic Dominic wrote:

Most of the Black Oni EP is included with Elixirs. If you don't already have Elixirs, definitely get that first.

Five Suns is amazing and should be checked out by all Zeuhl fans, but i think that Elixirs might be a bit boring to some, when compared to the vigorous playing found on Five Suns.

That'd be the 'Twisted Stems' EP! Big%20smile  'Black Oni' is a long player.

Edited to add: is the EP version of 'Twisted Stems' different from the album version on 'Elixirs'?  I've read the PA entry and reviews for the EP and there is no mention of the vocals (which appear on the album version).  I have this weird sensation of having heard 'The Heliotrope' (or something like it) before, but I can't place it.  And I think it's the vocals that make me feel that way...



Yes. They are instrumental, different and better, I think. Well, The Selenetrope with Jarboe is great, but The Heliotrope is much better as a dark, loungy Baldamenti-ish  instrumental. I really love the EP (and Elixirs).

My favorite is actually Five Suns. One of the handful of albums of the 00's I consider a real masterpiece. Never thought it was particulary similar to Magma, although its obviously Zeuhl-inspired.  My problem with the Guapo trilogy, if any, is that (although brilliant) Black Oni is too similar to its predessesor.

The quite new Miasma EP Perils, is fantastic! A lot more interesting than their OK debut. Warmly reccomended.

The older Guapo albums is really by a different band.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 05:31
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Dominic Dominic wrote:

Most of the Black Oni EP is included with Elixirs. If you don't already have Elixirs, definitely get that first.

Five Suns is amazing and should be checked out by all Zeuhl fans, but i think that Elixirs might be a bit boring to some, when compared to the vigorous playing found on Five Suns.

That'd be the 'Twisted Stems' EP! Big%20smile  'Black Oni' is a long player.

Edited to add: is the EP version of 'Twisted Stems' different from the album version on 'Elixirs'?  I've read the PA entry and reviews for the EP and there is no mention of the vocals (which appear on the album version).  I have this weird sensation of having heard 'The Heliotrope' (or something like it) before, but I can't place it.  And I think it's the vocals that make me feel that way...

'Elixirs' is indeed very, very different from 'Five Suns'.  Vigorous is a good word for 'Five Suns' - I'd call it almost punishingly vigorous. LOL  But in a good way...

'Elixirs' has a variety of 'guest instruments' on it, and there are even vocals.  It is certainly quite a departure from the previous two albums, and I will say again that it needs a horrible movie to go with it. Wink  Interestingly, the related band Miasma and the Carousel of Headless Horses (the name is a bit silly, if you ask me...), is apparently influenced in part by Goblin (the Italian soundtrack people), so there may be a bit of cross-pollination going on there.  MatCoHH (haha, even the initials look like a dangerous chemical!) are on my list to try at some point, so we'll see... Tongue
 
The Twisted Stems EP is purely instrumental, and I think that there may have been some other tweaking for the album as well.
 
'Elixirs' is less immediate than 5 Suns or Black Oni but is probably their strongest album yet, very strong compositions and a quantum leap on from Black Oni. The last couple of tracks hark back to earlier incarntions though; The Planks could have come from Great Sage, Equal of Heaven (recently reissued) and King Lindorm has the kind of pounding intensity that makes 5 Suns and Black Oni so effective on stage.
 
If you dig around in the interviews section you'll find an interview I did with Guapo shortly after Black Oni was released. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 05:28
One of my favourite bands nowadays.
I'm also most familiar with the trilogy. I listened a bit to Great Sage, Equal of Heaven, but I can't say I liked it that much.
Of the trilogy, I like each of them just as much. All three are exploring different territories, and very successfully so.
Favourite tracks are:
Black Oni III and V
Arthur, Elsie and Frances from Elixirs

I've ordered the Mothlite (project of Daniel O'Sullivan, but David Smith and Sara Hurich among many others are also participating) debut The Flax of Reverie, hopefully recieving it soon. From what I've heard on the website/myspace, it sounds very promising! Especially the track Riverside.

I'm also a fan of Miasma & the Carousel of Headless Horses, which sometimes reminds me of Guapo (not that strange, since all members of Guapo are present) with the folkish feel, that they ventured a bit into on Elixirs. The Miasma songs are a bit more focused and resolute, though, like The Planks (which by the by is a great tune!)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2008 at 04:55
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Elixirs was one of my most anticipated albums of the year; that said I still don't have it (finances).  I really like Guapo.  Five Suns and Black Oni are very good.  The one that bowled me over, as well, is Black Oni -- superb.  And along with Koenjihyakkei's Angherr Shisspa was my favourite of the 2005 releases (discovered some other really great ones from the year subsequently too).

I don't have the debut.

'Elixirs' has an apocalyptic feel.  'Post-Kobaïan', perhaps! LOL

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