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bhikkhu

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 13:29

I haven't been interested in Rush since "Signals."

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 13:23

Look at the last 10 reviews on the homepage about the new Rush album Snakes & Arrows, the ratings alternate between 1 and 4 stars

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 10:03

I've heard a couple of tracks on the radio, planet rock don't you know. I quite like it.

I'm looking forward to seeing Rush again later this year.

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 09:54

Hi,

I'm from Québec, and I'm not very goog in english...I'll try...

I'm a big Rush fan, since I discovered Presto and Chronicles.

I bought SnA yesterday.

It's so different. I like Far Cry, a VT song in style. But the rest...I'm confused. I don't recognize the old and good Rush. The bad took a new direction. I'll need more listening...

I like The Larger Bowl, Hope and Bravest Man...

Thanks

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 09:19

Snow Dog wrote:

I got into Rush because I liked Rush, not because they were a prog band, that was of no consequence. As they have changed, I still like them. They are still Rush!

I'm right that with that reality. I loved the Rush sound for years. Prog sound or not, they have always clicked with me.

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 09:11

el böthy wrote:

Leave it Erik, there are many other bands you can listen to...
Rush was once great (for em not as much as some think...but) but they complety lost it... a good while ago

You are so right.

Rush is definitely not great based on their fantastic album sales and highly successful tours.

Some people just like to bash Rush.

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 07:56

erik neuteboom wrote:

No, I haven't, not at all

.... !

There you go then. I don't think you will find S&A different enough!

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 07:47

No, I haven't, not at all

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 07:37

MajesterX wrote:

Angelo wrote:

Brought to you by the letter A

That reminds me- what's the story behind the whole "brought to you by the letter...." in the album packets?

Sesame Street? Yep!

Erik, I'm not sure this album is for you. Its modern Rush songs, but with a little old sound chucked in. Good album all round.

I got into Rush because I liked Rush, not because they were a prog band, that was of no consequence. As they have changed, I still like them. They are still Rush! I like Roll The Bones myself and think all the songs are uniformly excellent. Same goes for Test For Echo, though Counterparts leaves me a bit cold.

Not for you though I think, if you havent liked their product for the last 5 or 6 albums.

Avoid!

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 06:49

That 'euphoric review' does the album no favours at all, imho. Still, I'm not surprised this is seemingly a big seller- there are a glut of bands around at the mo such as Mars Volta, Coheed and Cambria etc. that owe a certain something to Rush's sound, imho, so perhaps some have been inspired to check out the 'mentors' so to speak.

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 06:45

Today I was in 3 records shops, all S&A cd's were sold out and one manager (son of the owner of Manus, the legendary progrock record shop on De Groende Zijde in Den Haag) told me that this new Rush album is the best selling Rush record since many years

! So I have to wait a few days before I can finally listen to Snakes & Arrows, I have to be patient

By the way, just another euphoric 5 star review on the homepage ....

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 04:39

Keppa4v wrote:

I've never been a fan of Vapor Trails as an album, but oh boy how good it felt after about five listens of S&A. Yes, it's too long and the sound is pretty bad

I've never been a great fan of Vapor Trails, but as was mentioned before without Caress of Steel there would have been no 2112, so if there had been no Vapor Trails would there have been a Snakes and Arrows?

I must disagree that Snakes is too long and the sound is bad. Snakes is one of the best sounding albums sonce about Hold Your Fire, or perhaps Counterparts.

Of course, everyone misses Broon and how he produced Rush and i think quietly that we all miss the Rush epics that may us love them so much.

But for me Snakes is the best Rush album since Power Windows. Bring on the European leg of the tour! October 14th!

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 03:54

Snow Dog wrote:

A B Negative wrote:

However, I will be getting together with my friends on the 24th of May to get drunk and listen to nothing but Rush, as we do every year. Nostalgia, it's not as good as it used to be!

That sounds absolutely brilliant!

Can I come?

No wonder that nobody understands you

Sorry but I was never rush fan. There were a lot better bands around (70-80).

Edited by pero - May 03 2007 at 03:56

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 03:54

This thread was meant to clear up things but after three pages I am even in more doubt

... today I go shopping, perhaps I will buy the new Rush album, I am very curious to the two instrumentals on Snakes & Arrows. So don't be surprised when you take a look at the homepage today and you will notice a sheer euphoric review about the new Rush album by me

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 00:36

erik neuteboom wrote:

But to me it seems that many Rush fans in this thread appreciate this kind of straight rock, don't they miss the excitement of 'everlasting' epics?

This is far from straightforward rock. There's alot going on even if its not in the overtly proggy sense. I prefer cleverly crafted songs to bombastic ones. The epics were great fun, but I'm much more interested in seeing something new. Nothing is more disappointing than hearing a band release the same thing album after album. Rush are everybit exciting with their shorter songs than their longer ones. I'll take "The Pass" over "Hemispheres" or "Xanadu" anyday.

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 00:34

I've never been a fan of Vapor Trails as an album, but oh boy how good it felt after about five listens of S&A. Yes, it's too long and the sound is pretty bad, but at least there's energy, some good riffs and some good melodies, all of which are almost completely absent from S&A. Now I've listened to it about 10-15 times, and I still can't get very excited. Far Cry is a definite highlight (couldn't have believed after hearing it the first time) and I like the instrumentals too, but some good parts aside the rest are (I try to think of a better word, but can't come up with anything better than) boring. But well, maybe it will get better. I hope so. Two stars so far.

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 00:19

StarsongAgeless wrote:

Atomic_Rooster wrote:

I agree, you should assume the worst from this album without even listening to it. That would be the intelligent thing to do. In fact, we should all base our opinions of everything in the world on hearsay and stop experiencing things for ourselves. It would be a much simpler way to live.

Of course!!!! How could I not see it before?!

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Posted: May 02 2007 at 23:59

I'm afraid I dropped Rush after witnessing the travesty that was the Roll the Bones tour.. but I would certainly give any new record a chance (though I would not buy it unheard).

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Posted: May 02 2007 at 23:51

Of course!!!! How could I not see it before?!

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Posted: May 02 2007 at 22:25

TheProgtologist wrote:

micky wrote:

paolo.beenees wrote:

Opinions about this album may vary a lot (personally, I like it, great rock album. It reminds me of a heavier version of the Dave Matthews Band). Nevertheless, Rush on stage are a really exciting show, I wouldn't miss them, for sure! Also because they come to Italy so seldom...

October 28th in Milan... we'll be there...

I know Raffaella picked it up today... at BTF in Milan.

I'll pass on it... I've got a copy of Caress of Steel and Farewell to Kings when I need to nip the occasional Rush bug.

I have tickets to the June 23rd show at the Nissan Pavilion,I was hoping you were going to attend because that is the closest venue to DC and Baltimore.

the Nissan Pavilion is right up the road from me damn...

well get a chance to meet Jody... I'll be back in Rome in June . and then we are coming back to to DC for July. We'd definitely like to me you.

Edited by micky - May 02 2007 at 22:25

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