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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2007 at 14:08

Well, some things are updated.

Assuming that Ze do Rancho and Mariazinha are two different persons I've created two separate entries for each other.

For Liminha -- I wrote his name with a compromiss solution: "- Liminha / unknown", meaning that his performance was a fact, yet the instrument is (still) unknown.

Now, the main line-up -- I've added the instruments you'd mentioned. Look, however, at the instruments here: http://www.proggnosis.com/MUSIC_DBCDInfo.asp?txtCDID=17179 ;

- A.D. Batista / piano, bass, vocals
- S.D. Batista / guitar, violin, vocals
- Rita Lee / flute, harp, vocals
 
Does this list make a sense? Should those instruments be added? Or some of them should be replaced?
 
Also, pay attention to the spelling of Ba(p)tistas. They are mentioned in PA as "Baptista", and I think it is the right spelling, relying on the fact that you're a native speaker of Portuguese.
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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2007 at 14:59

Cheers, Tarcisio!

Changes tomorrow...

...have to go now... Unhappy

Thanks again!
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Points: 198 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2007 at 14:50
HI, Eugene:
 
For the second Mutantes LP, Mutantes (1969), the right line up is:
 
Rita Lee _ Vocals, effects, Theremin.
Arnaldo Dias Baptista _ Bass, vocals, effects
Sérgio Dias Baptista _ Guitars, vocals, effects.
 
As for the guests:
 
Rogério Duprat - Arrangements, electric cello (9)
Ronaldo Leme (Dinho) - Drums
Zé do Rancho and Mariazinha_ Vocals, Brazillian Viola and Accordion (4)
 
About Liminha: although he was a friend of the band long before this LP was out, he was not playing bass with them yet. It is possible that he played brazilian viola on one of their songs in the LP but I could not find any definitly information about it.. So, the mention of him playing in this LP on the Mutantes entry as a guest bassist is not right.
 
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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2007 at 09:35
Hi, Tarcísio!
 
Actually, I've updated the Os Mutantes album. I had some problems with diacritics, but it seems that now it all is sorted out -- you may check it, and, if there are still some errors, tell me.
 
As for the additional information -- any help is appreciated, you know.
 
Eugene.
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HI, Eugene:
 
Yes, that is right. And the rest of the credits already in PA about the producer and guests seem to be right.
 
Actually to know exactly who guested on the albums is an exercise of madness, since they often asked friends to help along. For exemple, Dr. Clésar Baptista (father os the brothers Sergio and Arnaldo) appears on Ave Gengis Khan singing in ´russian´ (he sang in portuguese really, but the tape was recorded then playing backwards). The party sounds on Panis Et Circensis are the studio stuff making noises. And so on... But I´ll try to give the most important  information the best I can.  
 
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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2007 at 13:22
Thanks, Tarcísio Moura!
 
1.
If I understand you rightly, I can add the line-up you've posted:
 
- Rita Lee / vocals, effects
- Arnaldo Dias Baptista / bass, vocals
- Sérgio Dias Baptista / guitars, vocals
 
to the entry of the album Os Mutantes (1968), right?
 
2. Thanks in advance for the future possible updates.
 
3. Thanks for the linguistic clarification on Portuguese articles.
 
Eugene


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Points: 198 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2007 at 12:53
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Thanks, Tarcisio Moura!
 
The line-up for the album in question is updated.
 
By the way, some of Os Mutantes albums lack important information, like lines-up, for examples. Do you have any information on their other albums?
 
And, a question on general erudition -- what does "os" mean in Portuguese? Is it an article?
 
Hi, Fassbinder:
 
It´s not easy to find informations about who played what in their early albuns, since it was not common at the time to display such information on LP covers (the CD versions did not correct that). But their first LP, Os Mutantes, the mais line up is the one that follows:
 
Rita Lee _ Vocals, effects.
Arnaldo Dias Baptista - Bass, Vocals
Sérgio Dias Baptista_ Guitars, Vocals.
 
According to the book "A Divina Comédia Dos Mutantes" (their only offical biography), it seems that the remaining information already available about their debut album in PA is correct.  
 
I´ll keep on the research and sending the information as soon as I can
 
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HI, Fassbinder:
 
It´s a pleasure to help any time I can, I´ll look at the Mutantes discography. If I see something that I see it needs to be fixed, I´ll tell you. 
 
And "os" is an portuguese equivalent of the article "the" in english. While "the" aplies to both male and female characters, "os" aplies only to males or collectivelly to males plus females. The right article for females is "as". So, if you want to know see:
 
o (the, singular, refers to a specific male. Ex: o homem - the man))
a (the, singular, refers to a specific female. Ex: a mulher - the woman)
os (the, plural, group of two or more males or males and females)
as (the, plural, two  or more females only. For exemple, the 70´s girl only brazilian group, As Frenéticas).
 
Best regards
 
Tarcísio Moura
 
 
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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2007 at 01:33
Thanks, Tarcisio Moura!
 
The line-up for the album in question is updated.
 
By the way, some of Os Mutantes albums lack important information, like lines-up, for examples. Do you have any information on their other albums?
 
And, a question on general erudition -- what does "os" mean in Portuguese? Is it an article?
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Points: 198 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2007 at 17:51
HI, folks:
 
I was pleased to see  great brazilian band Mutantes on prog archives, but when I looked at their 1974´s album "Tudo Foi Feito Pelo Sol"  I noticed that the band´s line up is incomplete since it does not mention Sérgio Dias (guitarrist, songwriter,  singer and  up to that point the only orginal member left). So he should be included as:
 
Sérgio Dias Baptista: All Guitars, sitar, lead vocals.
 
Also the other 3 musicians are cited as guests, while they were really full time members.
 
Thanks for your atention
 
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