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darksinger
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Joined: May 29 2006
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 22:45 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
That's sad, but not unusual.
Can't name three European countries (That was an entire -- geography -- class of "bright" grade nine kids.)
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norway, Germany and Fenwick are three, right?
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Hierophant
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Joined: March 11 2005
Location: United States
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Points: 651
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:26 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
In the early 80'ds I leved in USA for a couple of years, before Shinning Path existed, few people knew about my country and that's incredible being a part of the whole America (In those days we studied America as a whole coontinent).
The really good ones I remember are:
1.- I got backstage pass for a non Prog good concert (Will not mention the band) and the lead singer was talking with me and saoid Ahh Perú....Cocaine and Macchu Picchu, it was depressing, this band had toured in Siuth America and only had heard those references.
2.- A girl I met in a party told me literally: "You are from Perú, great, I know your country, I was playing risk the other day and it's one of the 4 nations of South America.
3.- Anothe girl asked me if I was ashamed of my country because I was wearing Occidental clothes instead of the native outfit as those cute Africans from the university.
For God's sake, is that the level of USA school system?
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Those %&*#ing non prog bands - you never know who you're dealing with
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KoS
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Joined: May 17 2005
Location: Los Angeles
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Points: 16310
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:16 |
The American school system is, for the lack of a better term, f**ked up. There are high school students who don't even know where Iraq is or even the Middle East.
Edited by king of Siam - September 02 2006 at 17:20
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:13 |
In the early 80'ds I leved in USA for a couple of years, before Shinning Path existed, few people knew about my country and that's incredible being a part of the whole America (In those days we studied America as a whole coontinent).
The really good ones I remember are:
1.- I got backstage pass for a non Prog good concert (Will not mention the band) and the lead singer was talking with me and saoid Ahh Perú....Cocaine and Macchu Picchu, it was depressing, this band had toured in Siuth America and only had heard those references.
2.- A girl I met in a party told me literally: "You are from Perú, great, I know your country, I was playing risk the other day and it's one of the 4 nations of South America.
3.- Anothe girl asked me if I was ashamed of my country because I was wearing Occidental clothes instead of the native outfit as those cute Africans from the university.
For God's sake, is that the level of USA school system?
Iván
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Points: 89372
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:09 |
We got as far as the Cold War and the Cuban Missle Crisis, but it wasn't covered in great depth though.
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Arsillus
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Joined: March 26 2005
Location: United States
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Points: 7374
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:06 |
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Dreamer
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Joined: March 13 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Points: 297
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:02 |
Minimalist777 wrote:
Yupp its especially frustrating being part of that generation. It seems like nobody can talk about anything but sex, drugs and rock n roll (not even good rock, just crap like Green Day ugh) |
Ahh I'm relieved to hear I'm not the only one suffering. This days I try to stay out of this never ending "rebel" conversations, and when I can I attempt to start talking about something concrete, which isn't that often it always leaves half the people silent and confused, and the talk ends rather quickly...
When I told my freind I find this kind of talks repetitive and quite boring, and want to talk about something about more interesting and complicated, a bit less shallow please, he says "you take life way too serious man." I feel a bit trapped.
Edited by Dreamer - September 02 2006 at 17:04
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WaywardSon
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Joined: April 23 2006
Location: Brazil
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Points: 2537
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:01 |
I think a lot of people think of Brazil as "A developing country" or "A third world country". I actually hate both those terms.
How does one define what " a developed first world country" really is?
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Hierophant
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Joined: March 11 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:00 |
Well... lets see 2 years of preschool 1 year of kindergarten 8 years of gradeschool 4 years of high school 1 year of college and counting... Never once learned about: The Vietnam War The Gulf War Iran Contra The Constitution The Cuban Missile Crisis It seems that the schools love spending time on the civil war WWI & WWII and ancient civilizations. You usually get to around 1945 near the end of the year and by that time you'll be lucky if you learned anything new. I never actually touched on the Constitution of the United States until the last year of high school where we briefly touched on it in a college level class that you had to pay extra for. A good 10 years of my life was wasted picking out adjectives and verbs in sentences and trying to multiply two digit numbers. The standard 8 grades should be condensed into 4 and high school from 4 to 2 with an emphasis on math and science. 80% of the material taught in schools is repeated from the first grade.
Edited by Hierophant - September 02 2006 at 17:16
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Arsillus
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Location: United States
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:45 |
Atkingani wrote:
Our President, Lula, visited Bush Jr and said something about the conditions of life of many Brazilian blacks. Bush became surprised and asked Lula: "Are there blacks in Brazil?". - this is not a joke, it really happened!
The amount of mistakes about my country is unbelievable and surprising since we are 5th in area and population and 9th in terms of GNP.
- I thought only natives and monkeys lived in Brazil.
- How do you feel living in Rio de Janeiro in the middle of the Amazon Forest?
- I like the way Brazilians speak Spanish...
- I once visited your capital, Buenos Aires.
- All Brazilians live in favelas; all women are whore and all men are pimps!
- You cannot be a Brazilian, you're white!!!
- I'd like to go to Brazil and hunt lions and elephants there...
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All that's priceless, but sad too. I'm not suprised about the Bush comment.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Points: 89372
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:42 |
I once heard from a friend of an interview with a member of "New Kids On the Block" way back in the '80s and he didn't know where England was!
Maybe it's an urban legend, but I somehow think it could be true. I'll try and find out.
Edited by Geck0 - September 02 2006 at 16:42
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Atkingani
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Joined: October 21 2005
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:38 |
Our President, Lula, visited Bush Jr and said something about the conditions of life of many Brazilian blacks. Bush became surprised and asked Lula: "Are there blacks in Brazil?". - this is not a joke, it really happened!
The amount of mistakes about my country is unbelievable and surprising since we are 5th in area and population and 9th in terms of GNP.
- I thought only natives and monkeys lived in Brazil.
- How do you feel living in Rio de Janeiro in the middle of the Amazon Forest?
- I like the way Brazilians speak Spanish...
- I once visited your capital, Buenos Aires.
- All Brazilians live in favelas; all women are whore and all men are pimps!
- You cannot be a Brazilian, you're white!!!
- I'd like to go to Brazil and hunt lions and elephants there...
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Minimalist777
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Joined: June 19 2006
Location: United States
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:25 |
Yupp its especially frustrating being part of that generation. It seems like nobody can talk about anything but sex, drugs and rock n roll (not even good rock, just crap like Green Day ugh)
Edited by Minimalist777 - September 02 2006 at 16:25
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WWOSD?
What Would OliverStoned Do?
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Dreamer
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Joined: March 13 2005
Location: Amsterdam
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Points: 297
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:02 |
oh uh, an imoster, it must be! Doesn't matter, we could do with a few more dreamers here and there.
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Peter
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:33 |
Dreamer wrote:
^^^ Smart words peter! I agree with you. |
Thank you!
But...
You may say you're a "Dreamer," but you're not the only one....
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Edited by Peter Rideout - September 02 2006 at 15:43
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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sleeper
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Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:40 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Some classics there right enough Peter.
On a similar theme, do you think television is making it harder to differentiate reality from virtual reality. I'm thinking for example of an excellent dinosaur drama on TV at the moment. It's done is a similar was to Jurassic Park, but as a documentary. Mammoths are seen mixing with elephants. The elephants are real of course, and the mammoths are computer generated, but you can't tell that by watching it. The commentary makes it sound like the whole thing is genuine too.
It's great to watch, but is it confusing the next generation? |
Actually, I find that program rather fake (especially the CGI) and have stopped watching it.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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sleeper
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Joined: October 09 2005
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:40 |
I see that Mr Rideout is the voice of reason here. The ongoing depredation of our sociaty is one of the sadest and scariest worries for the future.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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zappaholic
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Joined: March 24 2006
Location: flyover country
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:25 |
It seems that most people are not only ignorant, but PROUD of it - even SMUG about it.
Willful ignorance will be the end of the human race as we know it.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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mystic fred
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Joined: March 13 2006
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:00 |
Henry Ford famously said "History is bunk...", but i firmly believe the mistakes of the past can be learnt for the future. Most people i know fall into two camps - those that don't care or don't want to know what happened in the past, or how we got here, and those that must know...thankfully i fall into the latter category, i can't bear not knowing what went before !!
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Prog Archives Tour Van
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Padraic
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 13:54 |
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