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Poll Question: Which Band Should Not Be on Progarchives?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:30
Originally posted by mukster mukster wrote:

The Beatles -not prog as far as I'm concerned. Dead
 
I am sure a lot of people disagree - it's just that if Abba came up with a few experimental albums at the end, they would not classify as prog either.


I suggest you read before posting. Here's something you should've read before posting.

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I dont think there is any merit in discussing Prog-Related or Proto-Prog as if they are accepted here as prog Rock bands.

The Prog Archives merry-go-round:

Proto-Prog and Prog-related bands are NOT considered to be Prog Rock bands by Prog Archives.
Check out the descriptions for each:


http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#38
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#37

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:29
The Beatles -not prog as far as I'm concerned. Dead
 
I am sure a lot of people disagree - it's just that if Abba came up with a few experimental albums at the end, they would not classify as prog either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 20:29
Originally posted by transend transend wrote:


Oh, yeah...err, Radiohead. They are good, but prog? I dont think so, if they are prog so are Coldplay.
 
Coldplay never did anything like Kid A. And they never will.
 
Radiohead have reinvented themselves with almost every album, and every different direction offers something new and challenging.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 20:25
Not sure about who is and who isnt prog, but it is scary how similar the Japanese bands look alike considering its two different sexes..
 

Oh, yeah...err, Radiohead. They are good, but prog? I dont think so, if they are prog so are Coldplay.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 19:03
Originally posted by OpethGuitarist OpethGuitarist wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hahha...


Radiohead - only if 95% of the crap that people are calling prog is eliminated as well...

 
Queen - a vote for yes.. shows that you haven't listened to their early albums
Deep Purple - same damn thing...  ^


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:46
If you think Mogwai aren't prog wait 'till you hear Sigur Ros - Agaetis byrjun...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:40
Originally posted by OpethGuitarist OpethGuitarist wrote:

why all the votes for Radiohead? They are actually among the most prog of the group

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:58
WO!!!
 
I just found out that the Japanese band, Dir En Grey are on this site. ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS?!?
 
Terrible, Mindless, Un-talented, Nu-Metal would fit much better, and that is just me being nice. How did they get on here?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:52

Most of the bands on this site are rightfully there, but one that I have a big problem with is Death. I'm a metalhead at heart and absolutely love Schuldiner's work, but I can not see why people think they are progressive!

I got back into Death a long time ago, and I would have been laughing my ass off if someone suggested that Scream Bloody Gore was progressive.
 
I know the argument has been made that their later albums are progressive, but I just cannot see classifying them as "Progressive Metal".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:50
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hahha...


Radiohead - only if 95% of the crap that people are calling prog is eliminated as well...

 
Queen - a vote for yes.. shows that you haven't listened to their early albums
Deep Purple - same damn thing...  ^


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:50
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why all the votes for Radiohead? They are actually among the most prog of the group
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:49
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Deep Purple: Proto-Prog

Queen: Prog-Related
 
No objection about that.
 
I'd rather see Radiohead in Prog-Related.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:25
hahha...


Radiohead - only if 95% of the crap that people are calling prog is eliminated as well...

 
Queen - a vote for yes.. shows that you haven't listened to their early albums
Deep Purple - same damn thing...  ^
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:20
Radiohead.
 
People just WANT them to be prog so they can say that a prog band is popular.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:56
I dont think there is any merit in discussing Prog-Related or Proto-Prog as if they are accepted here as prog Rock bands.

The Prog Archives merry-go-round:

Proto-Prog and Prog-related bands are NOT considered to be Prog Rock bands by Prog Archives.
Check out the descriptions for each:

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#38
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#37

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:46
The majority of those bands shouldn't be on progarchives, as they are not progressive rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:18
Deep Purple. "Proto prog"??!! They're are great rock band, blues influenced, but I don't think they're anything prog.
 
Radiohead, on the other hand, are prog. I liked Rick Wakeman's comment about them; "sorry guys, you're as prog as they come"!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:11
Originally posted by MadcapLaughs84 MadcapLaughs84 wrote:

I know here are bands that can be considered with some prog influences, but does everyone is absolutely prog???
 
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Absolutely prog, no, but then Deep Purple is categorised as proto-prog and Queen is categorized as prog-related.  I have no problem with that.  A band like Radiohead is better categorised over-all as alt. rock, but that's a fairly nebulous classification I've always felt.  They did become more experimental art rockish with their later albums, I suppose.  I guess I'd classify them as pop rock.  I'd rather see them in prog-related.  But heck, if I ran prog-related I'd open the floodgates to a ton of stuff (Santana, the Doors... but I'd put my foot down with Menudo).

Since post-rock is an integrated subgenre at this site, Mogwai should be here.

Laccrimosa... I haven't heard enough of them to have a strong opinion.  I know many don't consider them to be worthy of inclusion.  I must say I really like their song listed at this site HERE.  Can't judge by one song (they'd need at least one album that is prog), but "Warum so Tief" sounds like a delightfully (seriously) proggy song to me.

So I think they all have a place here - at least under prog-related.  Some reclassification might be warranted, in my opinion.  My problem is that once you open the doors to prog-related, too much stuff that is not readily identified with the "prog movement" becomes acceptable, but it is a necessary category.  I do get the impression that this site is stricter with classic bands than newer ones on the whole.

Oh, as for Triumph, I hadn't realised they were included at this site. That was a surprise -- even if it's just under prog-related. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:09
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

 
I'd rather see Radiohead in Prog-Related.

I would, too, better not let The Wizard see this, though, as he thinks Radiohead are one of the most progressive groups ever.LOL
 
Ermm Maybe if you discount Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer, Half of Kid A, Amnesiac, and Hail to the Theif and decided that Yorke's lyrics don't matter since you can't hear them, then I guess that's sort of not crazy. Confused
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