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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: May 09 2006 at 10:35 |
[QUOTE=Tuzvihar]YES! He's the creator of fusion: Bitches Brew, Big Fun, Pangaea, Agharta
Uhm... Uhm... Uhm... I voted No because Miles Davis is basically a Jazz artist and not a Prog artist.
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crimson thing
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Posted: May 09 2006 at 10:14 |
On balance I dont think he should be listed here. (I have Bitches Brew, and some compilations of his earlier Jazz stuff.) Although BB is very similar to the work of some other bands which are listed here, eg his erstwhile collaborator, Chick Corea's, Return to Forever, its still recognizably a Jazz work - and his earlier stuff is clearly Jazz.
So I voted No - this is, after all, a progressive rock forum.
(If you let him in, I'll start agitating for Brubeck & Coltrane, & the worms will come flying out of the can....) 
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FragileDT
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Posted: May 09 2006 at 09:57 |
I think that Miles Davis should be in the archives as "Proto-Jazz/Fusion" if there would exist such a genre. He was VERY influential to the beginning of the Jazz/Fusion scene.
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: May 09 2006 at 09:22 |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: May 09 2006 at 08:53 |
Chipiron wrote:
I don't think so, although I've only listened to "Kind of Blue", ayway, I didn't like it but I don't mind giving it another chance. |
Kind of Blue, although pleasant, is not during his his crazed fusion period,Get his albums Bitches Brew or else Tribute to Jack Johnson, or pretty much anything from 1969-through the 70s, you won't believe its the same guy that performed A Kind of Blue  .
Edited by Cheesecakemouse - May 09 2006 at 08:58
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Chipiron
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Posted: May 09 2006 at 08:49 |
I don't think so, although I've only listened to "Kind of Blue", ayway, I didn't like it but I don't mind giving it another chance.
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: May 09 2006 at 08:44 |
Basically if there was no Miles Davis, there was no fusion as we know it today. Groups from Mahavishnu Orc to King Crimson owe a huge amount to Miles. KC'S album Starless and Bible Black was heavily influenced by Miles Davis album "A Tribute to Jack Johnson." - (not the guitarist, but rather the boxer)
Several sources classify his fusion albums are progressive rock, ie the Coloumbia music catalogue I recieved classified Bitches Brew as progressive Rock. On a Miles Davis dvd I watched that had a documentary about Bitchs Brew; the band memebers said that they were no longer playing jazz on Bitches Brew, that it was something else. Also a album sleeve book I read listed Miles Davis album On the Corner as prog.
What more can I say?  So vote and discuss.
Edited by Cheesecakemouse - January 05 2007 at 16:58
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