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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 08:48
I am communist and I am very much into prog. I think prog would be good for educating the masses and create revolutionary armies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 08:11

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I'm extremely conservative, then again Rush is my favorite band so maybe that affects it

Rush have some rather unpleasant right wing views and that does not endear them to me at all.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 08:01
"Few styles of popular music have generated as much controversy as progressive rock, a musical genre best remembered today for its gargantuan stage shows, its fascination with epic subject matter drawn from science fiction, mythology, and fantasy literature, and above all for its attempts to combine classical music's sense of space and monumental scope with rock's raw power and energy. Its dazzling virtuosity and spectacular live concerts made it hugely popular with fans during the 1970s, who saw bands such as King Crimson, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, and Jethro Tull bring a new level of depth and sophistication to rock. On the other hand, critics branded the elaborate concerts of these bands as self- indulgent and materialistic. They viewed progressive rock's classical/rock fusion attempts as elitist, a betrayal of rock's populist origins."...Rocking the Classics

Elitist, populist. This doesn't sound to socialistic to me. In fact critics hate prog because it does not reflect the us against the man mentality, the haves against the have nots,the the proletariat against the bourgeoisie They felt that rock was first and foremost a political tool for Marxist Ideal isms and that prog led people away from all the inequality and the injustice. This is why punk was praised as reviving the spirit of rock. The early prog bands were observationalists for the most part and madingley apolitical. Sorry, but in my view the absents of socialism in music was the reason prog was scorned, not embraced.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 02:35

If Socialism is in the north, I'm in the south.

Many of my friends are Progheads and none is remotely Socialist.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 02:24
I'm extremely conservative, then again Rush is my favorite band so maybe that affects it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 02:03

I also happen to think that it's close-minded to say that religion/politics shouldn't be mixed with music/literature ... although ....

IMO it's very rare that they combine successfully ... but I think it's up to the artist not the fan to decide what message they (the artist) can convey

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:48

I happen to be sort of a socialist, but this has nothing to do with prog. As already said many times in here, music and political opinion don't have anything to do with each other, except in some sick fascistic musical environments.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:19
I guess socialist is the best term to describe my political views, not that I care.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:16
I think politics and music should not mix - the same as literature and politics. I've always had my own political views, but I think this is not the place to air them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:09
I stand miles above all regular political views. I agree with some early postings that to admire prog music one shouldn't be narrow minded.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 14:38

 

I see a lot of confusion between the terms socialism, left, conservative, etc, etc.

People who listen to non commercial music , including all genres tend to be open minded and some kind of rebel.

 

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 14:16
I'm not a socialist or a conservative. I dont support failed political systems. Waste of my time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 14:15

I vote for the left-side.

But I think that music must stay apart from the politic. A progger can be right-oriented or left-oriented. Prog is no politic, prog is the pure music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:57
Originally posted by opera_guy opera_guy wrote:

Just because all your friends are socialist doesn't mean all people who like progressive music are socialist.  I'm as far from socialist as they come.  And I have quite a few friends/family that like progressive music that are not socialist.  It's not a matter of opinion.  This thread is pointless.


Read what i said again

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:56
Originally posted by Trotsky Trotsky wrote:



Try and guess which side I am on!



God Trotsky! The only part of the brain working on you is the left one! LOL!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:37
Just because all your friends are socialist doesn't mean all people who like progressive music are socialist.  I'm as far from socialist as they come.  And I have quite a few friends/family that like progressive music that are not socialist.  It's not a matter of opinion.  This thread is pointless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:24
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

I thought anti-proggists the Clash were socialist..................


The clash aren't anti-proggists, i don't think punk ever had the intention to kill prog, it just happened.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 13:07
Conservative and extremely proud of it.  Where did you get the idea that we are all socialist?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 12:53
I thought anti-proggists the Clash were socialist..................
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 12:52
I am a Liberal Democrat (UK) and extremely proud of it.

I love baiting the brainless (often but by no means exclusively American) neo-cons! Their motto seems to be "never think something through when you can form a totally bigoted view without".

But I don't see what politics has to do with prog. (Mind you, Phil Collins went up in my estimation when he announced he wasn't and never had been a Conservative).


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