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Points: 5113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2006 at 03:08
Originally posted by Littlewashu5 Littlewashu5 wrote:

Pain of Salvation's BE


Allmusic's review of the album sums things up better than I ever could:


http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:r6ge4j27 7waw\


As for some of the other bands listed, I do enjoy listening to Magic Pie, Dream Theater, and Spock's Beard (although I think ever since Nick D'virgilo took over the cheese has lessned to some extent, that is when it's not completely saturated with it like on parts of Ballet of Impact and most of A Guy Named Sid. Still it's doubtful Neal could ever pull something like Ghosts of Autumn out of his ass. ANYWAY......) I must admit, I find bands like Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Opeth, Coheed and Cambria, and most other Prog that has a metal/alternative rock influence to be much better in the lyrics department.......



That's gotta be the worst review of BE ever written.

Shadow Gallery has some cheesy moments.
"Come down with fire
I want to love you want to take you into my heart
We'll cruise the starways
And from the moment that we touch our love turns into a crystalline dream
Fly where your dreams go
With open eyes it's the dawn and you're alive
No time or space here
I walk in castles of gold
Our love turns into a crystalline dream" - Crystalline Dream

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Pain of Salvation's BE

Allmusic's review of the album sums things up better than I ever could:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:r6ge4j27 7waw\

As for some of the other bands listed, I do enjoy listening to Magic Pie, Dream Theater, and Spock's Beard (although I think ever since Nick D'virgilo took over the cheese has lessned to some extent, that is when it's not completely saturated with it like on parts of Ballet of Impact and most of A Guy Named Sid. Still it's doubtful Neal could ever pull something like Ghosts of Autumn out of his ass. ANYWAY......) I must admit, I find bands like Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Opeth, Coheed and Cambria, and most other Prog that has a metal/alternative rock influence to be much better in the lyrics department.......
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Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

I actually love some Styx like Mr Roboto its fun to sing when ur drunk same with come sail away there as cheesy as hell if there prog i sure dont think so even though i think they sound like a crappy Rush.

Funny, when I'm drunk with a couple of  friends (One is metalhead and the two others are progheads)  I do one of two things:

a) Sing Mr Robotto (If we're playing poker)

b) Play the Come Sail Away piano intro and try to sing it. (If we're on a card break)

They always pretend to be angry, but this is like a tradition between us.

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I actually love some Styx like Mr Roboto its fun to sing when ur drunk same with come sail away there as cheesy as hell if there prog i sure dont think so even though i think they sound like a crappy Rush.
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Many bands have their share of cheese:

  • Genesis ABACAB, when they used the EW&F horns
  • ELP: Love Beach, from the cover to the last song (Except Canario).
  • Yes: Circus of Heaven, Don't Kill the Whale and a lot of lyrics.
  • Kansas: Vynil Confessions

Just to mention four.

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Chesse, Wine, Fireplace & Love... (new prog band...)
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Points: 75 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 21:12

Cheese is pretty very tasty at times ... and id have to agree with the dream theater comment about the ballads Hollow years being the epitome of it, but you gotta love 'em anyway. Also..Kamelot! im suprised no one has mentioned them yet. cliches swimming in pools of cheese  Even their name, Kamelot, i love it anyway!

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But I like some cheese , cheese is nice 
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Most Italian prog sounds quite cheesy.

And of course Dream Theater (though I like them) - Pull me under, surrounded, learning to live, the whole Scenes from a memory...
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Transatlantic is cheesy!
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Originally posted by progaeopteryx progaeopteryx wrote:

Mmmmmm.... cheese... mmmmmmmm....


I do enjoy a slice every so often. Though let's not take the cheesy comments seriously. Besides, I think those elements of cheese are what make Prog music fun at times. Besides sometimes the most cheesiest moments are the one's that are the most sincere and emotional.

Let's not let prog music become so serious, that we can't have a little fun.
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Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I must say that for, probably the cheesiest band ever is the Flower Kings...thought I like to discrive them as muchy, rather than cheesy...then there are the few songs from Spocks Beard I heard...I find Morse vocals kinda cheesy...

I can definately see that, with TFK
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Points: 60 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 18:18
I can't help finding Jon Anderson being cheesy quite regularly...Homeworld lyrics are a mouse's banquet:

Truth is a simple place
Here for us all to see
Reach as it comes to you
As it comes to me
As I will always need you inside my heart

Peace is a word we teach
A place for us all to reach
Sing as it sings to you
As it sings to me
As I will always need you inside my heart
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Points: 546 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 17:54
i recently deleted all of spocks beard mp3's off of my HDD because it reeked of cheese. that nad i havent listened to them in at least a year

listen to Hella
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Points: 705 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 17:41
Most modern prog bands are cheesy as hell... that's what puts me off a lot of them.
The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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I must say that for, probably the cheesiest band ever is the Flower Kings...thought I like to discrive them as muchy, rather than cheesy...then there are the few songs from Spocks Beard I heard...I find Morse vocals kinda cheesy...
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Points: 3613 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 16:58
Mmmmmm.... cheese... mmmmmmmm....
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Every attempt Dream Theater has ever made at a ballad has failed miserably, and I feel embarrassed for them. Their latest, "I Walk Beside You," was by far their worst, but really any DT ballad is horrendously full of cheese. When they're rocking out with insane keyboard/guitar tradeoffs they're great, but they can't do "sentimental" songs to save their lives. And don't even get me started on TransAtlantic.

Spock's Beard entire "Snow" album is full of cheese. Open Wide the Floodgates... *shudders*
The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 16:37

Originally posted by BebieM BebieM wrote:

Golf Girl by Caravan 

I love that song!

Anyway, I always thought Rush were quite cheesy at times, with The Trees and Passage to Bangkok.

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Originally posted by SirPsycho388 SirPsycho388 wrote:

I think alot of modern prog bands have some element of cheese, basically cause they're trying too hard - Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, Symphony X, Magic Pie, Wobbler, all those new bands with all songs 15+min.


Have to agree with that, I'm a big Flower Kings fan and from the bits I've heard of Wobbler they're interesting too but I have to admit that sometimes  Roine Stolt is the king of cheese, in fact he's the emperor of cheeselandia, the very godhead of cheesedom.
The entire closing eight minutes of Stardust We Are is cheese on a stick (with extra cheese and a side order of cheese). Those closing 4000 or so bars could have been done in oh.... 32 bars, with a bar or four to spare. It just goes on and on and on, each phrase cheesier than the last.
Hmmm.... then why do I still love it?
Perhaps I am a worshipper of cheese, a cheese-eating I surrender to it monkey, a cheesefinder general.
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