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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I used to agree with you about 2112, Red and In Absentia but they really grew on me as entire albums. The first side of 2112 is better but the second side finally clicked.
 
Brain Salad Surgery is also a grower. Not perfect but has also improved over the years as i've listened to it.

Totally agree with Foxtrot. Same goes for Nursery Crime. Really don't get what everyone sees in these albums as classics although i find Trespass and SEBTP to be masterpieces.

Personally tastes, go figure!



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I just listened to Nursery Cryme the other night and I think it might be a contender for best Genesis album. I think next to A Trick of the Tail it's probably their most consistent. SEBTP and Foxtrot both have a bit of low points (or as some people might say "filler") and the same goes for Lamb.

The only Yes album that might be a little overrated (these days anyway) is Close to the Edge. These days that's to prog what Dark Side of the Moon or Led Zepp 4 is to classic rock. Too bad the classic rock crowd never really caught on but in prog circles at least it's often seen as the GOAT.
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Yes - The Yes Album, Fragile, CTTE, Tales, Relayer
ELP - s/t, Trilogy
PFM - Storia di un Minuto
Pink Floyd - Animals
Maxophone - s/t
Collegium Musicum - Konvergenzie
Camel - the entire discography (sorry it's very boring for me)
Bloody bloody racket and rumpus
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ELP-Brain Salad Surgery-I much prefer what came before it
Genesis-Nursery Crime-I much prefer the previous "Trespass"
Eloy-Floating-it does nothing for me, I really dig the debut and especially "Inside" much more
The Soft Machine-debut and Volume Two-these first two albums are nonsense to me; their later albums like "Fourth" and "Seven" are much more focused and together recordings.
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In the Court of the Crimson King.

The opening tune is a masterpiece. The closing track is really good. The remainder is nothing special.
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Zopp's "Dominion" comes to mind. In my opinion, that's a significantly weaker album than the debut. To these ears, "Dominion" features weaker compositions, melodies, and production compared to the debut album, and, finally, those changes in musical direction weren't successful. Hence, I really don't understand why people are championing "Dominion" so much!
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans
Genesis - Trespass & Nursery Cryme
Rush - Moving Pictures & 2112
Pink Floyd - Animals & The Wall
ELP - Tarkus
Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord
Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Supertramp - the first two albums
Marillion - everything with Fish


Also disagree about Moving Pictures, Tarkus and Voyage of the Acolyte.

I think all of APP's are overrated, but Tales of Mystery and Imagination is far and away the best thing they ever did. The first side is stellar. After that, it's all downhill.

The Wall is the very definition of overrated, I concur.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

What prog albums do think are at least a little bit overrated. I mean you possibly still like them and they are still great (or at least good) but you think they are at least a tad overrated or maybe you just don't like them at all despite their reputation. Here's a few for me. I still like these though.


VDGG - Pawn Hearts (maybe I need to listen more but I probably prefer Godbluff)
King Crimson - Red (the title track is really repetitioius and the improv piece is well an improv piece. Anyway, I much prefer LTIA)
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia (not many "wow" moments imo)
Camel - Moonmadness (a solid album for sure but I still much prefer Mirage and The Snow Goose)
Rush - 2112 (I love side one but side 2 is probably their weakest side from the 70s although still good)
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery (some great stuff on here for sure but the karn evil 9 epic is too repetitious to be thoroughly enjoyable. I prefer the debut.)
Genesis - Foxtrot (supper's ready is the best thing they ever did but side one is a little spotty imo especially get em out by Friday which took me a long time to warm up to).




Red and Brain Salad Surgery overrated? Nope. Nah. Nein!

I do agree about Camel. I think everything they released between Camel and the (underrated) Rain Dances is overrated.
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I used to agree with you about 2112, Red and In Absentia but they really grew on me as entire albums. The first side of 2112 is better but the second side finally clicked.
 
Brain Salad Surgery is also a grower. Not perfect but has also improved over the years as i've listened to it.

Totally agree with Foxtrot. Same goes for Nursery Crime. Really don't get what everyone sees in these albums as classics although i find Trespass and SEBTP to be masterpieces.

Personally tastes, go figure!



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Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans
Genesis - Trespass & Nursery Cryme
Rush - Moving Pictures & 2112
Pink Floyd - Animals & The Wall
ELP - Tarkus
Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord
Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Supertramp - the first two albums
Marillion - everything with Fish
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What prog albums do think are at least a little bit overrated. I mean you possibly still like them and they are still great (or at least good) but you think they are at least a tad overrated or maybe you just don't like them at all despite their reputation. Here's a few for me. I still like these though.


VDGG - Pawn Hearts (maybe I need to listen more but I probably prefer Godbluff)
King Crimson - Red (the title track is really repetitioius and the improv piece is well an improv piece. Anyway, I much prefer LTIA)
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia (not many "wow" moments imo)
Camel - Moonmadness (a solid album for sure but I still much prefer Mirage and The Snow Goose)
Rush - 2112 (I love side one but side 2 is probably their weakest side from the 70s although still good)
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery (some great stuff on here for sure but the karn evil 9 epic is too repetitious to be thoroughly enjoyable. I prefer the debut.)
Genesis - Foxtrot (supper's ready is the best thing they ever did but side one is a little spotty imo especially get em out by Friday which took me a long time to warm up to).



Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - July 17 2024 at 12:09
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