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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by peterbabadelis peterbabadelis wrote:

ELP.  Never duplicated. 

Not for the lack of trying. LOL They've  had a lot of imitators. 

Hi,

I kinda think this is unfair ... because of the sound of the keyboards and their "largeness" ... within a group. 

What really hurt if that we could not distinguish between various different things ... like comparing Le Orme to ELP is the same thing as saying ... you're not listening! Or worse, comparing Banco and PFM to ELP simply because KE appreciated them and their sound for their record label! Didn't get very far, but it helped them a lot, although the English/American versions of Banco are not half as exciting as the originals. Same for PFM and Le Orme.

If all one takes into consideration is the "SOUND", then yeah, it might be similar, but the music design and talent behind it, was totally different.
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Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

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Clap Agreed!!! Prog rock died in 1979!!!
Nothing New came out after that!!!
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Hi,

Not quite correct.

What happened that made it look like it had died was that almost all FM Radio Stations had been bought by Corporate Structures, by 1980, and this took away a precious bunch of new sounds. It looks like it "died", but how could it have died, if it is still alive and well, and selling? AND, above all ... REMEMBERED.

That FM radio dial provided massive sales to a lot of bands, that kinda went off the air at that moment, and generally, when you can't hear things, they tend to appear to be gone. 

Prog Rock never died ... it's the audience that meekly didn't care, and allowed the FCC to change the rules in America, so the corporate standard could be maintained and would control things for a long time to come. BUT, remember, the FCC is made up of many of these corporate folks now ... and they do what they want, and have for 40 years. One rule that really hurt was when a huge corporate entity was allowed to own more than several stations in one place ... all of a sudden you (really!!!) had the same music in all of the stations, even though it would be classic in one and quasi classic (or classic 2) in the other!

The ARTS never die my friend ... we just fail to look at them, because the advertising takes your eyes away! Don't EVER forget that!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2024 at 05:42

Prog rock died in 1979!!!
Nothing New came out after that!!!
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Naw. You just decided to change the definition of the term "progressive"!

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Originally posted by peterbabadelis peterbabadelis wrote:

ELP.  Never duplicated. 

Not for the lack of trying. LOL They've  had a lot of imitators. 
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ELP.  Never duplicated. 
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^ YES!!

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Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Gentle Giant
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Originally posted by SleepingFinger SleepingFinger wrote:

Not sure if I can say “best” with absolute certainty, but I’m always pleasantly surprised by Gentle Giant. Is this best of all time? Or best currently existing band?
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Not sure if I can say “best” with absolute certainty, but I’m always pleasantly surprised by Gentle Giant. Is this best of all time? Or best currently existing band?

Edited by SleepingFinger - June 07 2024 at 00:15
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I have heard The Who, but they are not prog. Howe is the guitarist for Yes and he is good. But What? Never heard of them.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Certainly top 5 and I don't see any current bands affecting the top of my list any time soon.

Hi,

Agreed ... not to mention that these days, too much of the stuff is almost copy copy, and not the original content that we got way back when, as there was no controls on the American FM radio band that helped us discover a lot of different work from a lot of places.

Nowadays, we can find a lot of different work from many places, but sadly, a lot of them rely on sounds and ideas that are "recognizable" for them to be "accepted" and appreciated. This was not the case 50 years ago, when some folks objected to the different and wild new music, but it was obvious that it was the new path forward ... 

Finding a new path today, to compare to what happened some 50 years ago, would require a complete social/philosophical and everything else you can think of totally different than what you hear today ... and that's not to say that today's music is not good, but in some ways, it is not even close to comparable to a lot of the important ones from 50 years ago, specially in how folks related to it ... today, even a "different" band is not exactly appreciated as much as it should.

I'm not sure it can as long as the instruments are the same and the music designs are the same.



Clap Agreed!!! Prog rock died in 1979!!!
Nothing New came out after that!!!
Prog-Metal was born in the 80's with voivod and Fate warning!
After that then we got in the meddleof the 80's Death Technical Prog Metal. 
Then funeral came!!!
There is nothing else new!! but the same!!! We got tons of bands mixing old school prog with old school prog metal. 

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2024 What is still the best Prog Rock band ever?

the question is very simple!!!! like ABC!!!
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Originally posted by Mormegil Mormegil wrote:

Kind of a subjective question, isn't it? It's bound to get dozens of answers based on what people like, not what some chart says. Genesis, Rush, Floyd, Yes, etc. . . . the list will change with the person.


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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Frank Zappa, although not a "band" would get my vote. He covered so many different styles... Psychedelic, fusion, avant, rock, blues, experimental, classical, and did them all well.
 Zappa was a bit of everything and I adore all his music genius! however, he did not have the very first prog album. Lumpy Gravy was  too Avant garde or too Orchestral and sometimes even free jazz? fantastic album don't get me wrong a work of art but NO!. that was not a prog ROCK album!!! 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

So no prog at all before ITCOTCK? Really? No, I don't really agree with that I'm afraid. KC is in my top 10 (maybe even top 5) but not my favorite. 
 Well, I see the Nice, Floyd, The Moodies Blues, Traffic, Zappa had debut albums in 1967!, however was that prog? in my humble opinion I don't think so!! that was a mix o psychedelia music, avant garde , fusion? acid rock? O whatever it was called?.
Crimson made the first real prog rock album with all the correct ingredients. 


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Certainly top 5 and I don't see any current bands affecting the top of my list any time soon.

Hi,

Agreed ... not to mention that these days, too much of the stuff is almost copy copy, and not the original content that we got way back when, as there was no controls on the American FM radio band that helped us discover a lot of different work from a lot of places.

Nowadays, we can find a lot of different work from many places, but sadly, a lot of them rely on sounds and ideas that are "recognizable" for them to be "accepted" and appreciated. This was not the case 50 years ago, when some folks objected to the different and wild new music, but it was obvious that it was the new path forward ... 

Finding a new path today, to compare to what happened some 50 years ago, would require a complete social/philosophical and everything else you can think of totally different than what you hear today ... and that's not to say that today's music is not good, but in some ways, it is not even close to comparable to a lot of the important ones from 50 years ago, specially in how folks related to it ... today, even a "different" band is not exactly appreciated as much as it should.

I'm not sure it can as long as the instruments are the same and the music designs are the same.
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If we're talking bands that are still active: IZZ and Big Big Train. Honestly though, I simply named two random bands that I haven't listed in any PA forum top list yet. In reality, there's way too many to name and due to the prog rock genre being so broad and diverse, you can't compare any random prog band to another.

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Kind of a subjective question, isn't it? It's bound to get dozens of answers based on what people like, not what some chart says. Genesis, Rush, Floyd, Yes, etc. . . . the list will change with the person.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2024 at 19:21
^Frank Zappa, although not a "band" would get my vote. He covered so many different styles... Psychedelic, fusion, avant, rock, blues, experimental, classical, and did them all well.

Edited by Grumpyprogfan - June 06 2024 at 19:22
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Well, they haven't released any new material in over 20 years. Best ever? No, but in my top 40 or so prog bands.
 in your opinion! what is the best prog band ever? and why? Wink
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