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Modern prog bands similar to 70s prog? |
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David_D 
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 Posted: June 19 2023 at 07:24 |
I guess not many audiophiles would say that today.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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GoldenNoseSlim
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Posted: June 19 2023 at 06:57 |
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Oh, I get that.
Although that sounds like something new bands might not do because of the cost, right? I've played on a few DYI efforts and, unfortunately, the idea of live drums was usually shelved :( |
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GoldenNoseSlim
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Posted: June 19 2023 at 06:55 |
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I've a bit of experience with recording, but have not really managed that sort of sound yet if I'm honest.
Do you mean that you have a better chance of achieving that sound using older gear, analog equipment etc. Genuinely interested.
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moshkito
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Posted: June 19 2023 at 06:36 |
Hi, I don't think you are going to find it anymore, when so much of the new drumming sound is the electronic pads and stuff, and anyone with a regular old drumming set, is probably not going to be in your band very long, unless he is spectacular and special, and given that most of them can only do 4 count and hit the snare drum, the ability to make it "quality" is ... basically ... superfluous! The time will come when someone else will do a digital drum set and make an old drummer look rather ... OLD ... in their design and set. It is the history of the arts, and us thinking that this or that is safe, and better, is a bit on the silly side, and just a factor or two that we seem to like, rather than a reality ... the fact of the matter was that the music itself HAD THE WARMTH, and it had less to do with the tape, than the music itself. It's the SOURCE that is the reason, not what is "after" the source.
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Posted: June 19 2023 at 06:30 |
Hi, Welcome to the board. I'm not sure, or convinced that the "tape", the "amps" and everything else, had anything to do with it ... we don't go around saying that Mozart, Beethoven and Bach is better today, than it ever was ... which is likely given that most places these days know acoustics a lot better than the simple living rooms and places on royal courts. In general, all arts, change a wee bit, but the quality of the work continues and for us to think that one era is better because of the tape is ... strange to me ... what we're really saying is that we're bored with a lot of the music that is coming out today, and the fact that it is repetitious, and formatted, and badly designed, and in some cases, it has as much innovation, as you can find .... errrr ... in a toilet? The one thing that was "around" in those days, was the desire and ability to express yourself and do something different. With the Internet, today, too many folks are looking for "attention" instead of concentrating in their own work, and the result is ... a very bad loss of the feelings that you are looking for. Hopefully, it all comes around, but what came about with "progressive music" was the aftermath of a terrific artistic scene, and today, there is no artistic scene to discuss that is helping provide so much new art ... and this is, in many ways, what you are looking for and might not necessarily see it. The whole experimental and progressive side of things is gone. The Internet, and the FAN are a serious problem, because they like their "hits" and they do not want to see something new or different, in a manner of speaking, and this takes away the quality that you want to see and find. BUT, that music that you are looking for is out there, but simply not found in the same bands you are looking for, and you will have to expand your palate to find a few things out there that are far out, and have that feeling ... and it ain't the same thing that is normally found and discussed in many places ... it's kinda like "the undergrounds" as it was known in the old days. |
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^I have yet to hear a miked acoustic drum set recorded digitally to sound like does on tape. Sure, they can sound fantastic, but the tape added something to drums that you can't achieve with plug-ins.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 19 2023 at 05:55 |
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^^^ That' not necessarily correct. The "warmth" comes from harmonic distortion. The modern digital recording technologies simply capture the audio accurately. The artists can decide how much warmth they want, by choosing their instruments/amps and so forth.
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GoldenNoseSlim
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That's wicked. Thanks!
I think I only know Steven Wilson and have heard his remixes of classic prog albums. Not much a fan of his own work or Porcupine, but glad to check it out with an open mind. Would love to hear him do The Police or classic AC/DC albums. Hehe. Really appreciate it!
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Ah, thanks so much! Tbh, I think I know only Opeth and Naxatras from that list. Willing to give Opeth another shot.
Cheers!
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Posted: June 19 2023 at 05:41 |
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You answered your own question. Analog recordings are different sounding than digital and won't have the "warmth" you mentioned. The tape created that warmth. Here are some modern bands that are sonically pleasing to me.
Helmet of Gnats Big Big Train Thieves' Kitchen Antoine Fafard Sanguine Hum Dewa Budjana Echolyn Hiromi Ske Steven Wilson Izz Simon Phillips Wobbler |
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Posted: June 19 2023 at 05:40 |
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That's not an easy matter, but my best suggestions across the different subgenres are: Amarok (ESP) - Sol De Medianoche (2007) Ciccada (GR) - A Child In The Mirror (2010) Cold Fairyland (China) - Seeds On The Ground (2007) Green Carnation (N) - The Acoustic Verses (2006) Hypnos 69 (B) - Legacy (2010) Lunatic Soul (PL) - Lunatic Soul (2008) Naxatras (Gre) - Naxatras (2015) Opeth (S) - Damnation (2003) OSI (USA) - Office Of Strategic Influence (2003) Riverside (PL) - Out Of Myself (2003) White Willow (N) - Sacrament (2000) Xing Sa (F) - Creation De L’univers (2010) |
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GoldenNoseSlim
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Posted: June 19 2023 at 04:58 |
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Hi,
I'm new here, so forgive me if this question has been asked endlessly.  I was wondering if anyone could recommend modern bands whose recordings have the same warmth as 70s prog rock bands. Not sure if it was recording on tape, the amps, the quality of the players etc. but the classic 70s recordings just have a sound that I love. I like modern prog. However, most of the famous bands just sound bland to me on studio recordings. There's no air, warmth, depth to the recording IMO Particularly love hearing them on roadtrips and on early mornings  Would be thankful for any suggestion.
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