Top 5, 10 or something, all-time

David_D wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: [Differences between my personal rankings and broader rankings of the general public are pretty meaningless to me. I'm not very interested in analyzing those differences. Why is that?

Because I've learnt over a long period of time I don't enjoy Beyonce, Springsteen, Kanye, etc etc. Is this hard to understand? You seem to like answering with questions all the time. Frankly it's a bit boring.

Why is that?

David_D wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: [Differences between my personal rankings and broader rankings of the general public are pretty meaningless to me. I'm not very interested in analyzing those differences. Why is that?

^ I forgot to edit my first sentence, which makes it sound like I'm directly opposing your quoted post. Sorry & thanks.

It's fine to point at the distinction you make, Shadowyzard.

Edited by David_D - November 07 2021 at 09:04

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: There is no objective view of music, it's all subjective. My personal tastes have always been niche and have gotten more so over time. People on PA and PE have tastes that are more in line with mine so I value those opinions higher. There is a small group of individuals who tastes are a lot closer to mine the I generally check out their suggestions a lot. Other than that I explore and buy, or not.

There absolutely are objective views on music. I deem no one's tastes  superior or inferior to mine, and it is totally subjective. Whilst, if someone says that Cradle of Filth is not a melodic band (it happened here), s/he is definitely and objectively wrong. If someone says Rick Astley is not popular (again happened here), s/he is outright wrong. If someone says that Guns N' Roses' bass guitar player is a grand virtuoso (it happened on another forum), s/he is wrong. And everytime you point this/these out, people play the "subjectivity card". I find this ridiculous.

Someone can even say that PF's music is blissful, or even prog music is for idiots. Such takes are subjective, and I respect that. But honestly, I find this "everything is subjective" trick cheap. Very cheap.

P.S. The part above is a broad and a general take. So, you don't have to see this as directed to you or any other particular person.

Edited by Shadowyzard - November 07 2021 at 08:36

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: There is no objective view of music, it's all subjective. My personal tastes have always been niche and have gotten more so over time. People on PA and PE have tastes that are more in line with mine so I value those opinions higher. There is a small group of individuals who tastes are a lot closer to mine the I generally check out their suggestions a lot. Other than that I explore and buy, or not.

There is no objective view of music, it's all subjective. My personal tastes have always been niche and have gotten more so over time. People on PA and PE have tastes that are more in line with mine so I value those opinions higher. There is a small group of individuals who tastes are a lot closer to mine the I generally check out their suggestions a lot. Other than that I explore and buy, or not.

Grumpyprogfan wrote: Yeah, some peoples tastes align more with the general opinion. And yes there is a difference between the top rated and lower rated people in this poll.  Because I cracked the code, what do I win?

David_D wrote: And welcome very much to you, Shadowyzard. I'm happy to hear that you share my approach which also in fact is very good in this event, as you with only three albums represent the lower part of our result list. But I think, it would be good with a comment about it related to what I'd like us now to discuss.

I just thought I "pwned" the game, as well as your hearts. But it was just a regular "pawn" move of mine in a chess game, I suppose. 

Edited by Shadowyzard - November 07 2021 at 02:36

Shadowyzard wrote: 1-) 38 Van Der Graaf Generator  (UK) :   Pawn Hearts  (1971)   12,49 (1908 b.) 2-) 48 Yes  (UK) :   Close To The Edge  (1972)   12,87 (5157 b.) 3-) 32 Marillion  (UK) :   Misplaced Childhood  (1985)   12,06 (1849 b.) My criterion: Quality over quantity. And a "top 3" is the most "classy" top of all tops. Mark my words, David from Denmark.

Edited by David_D - November 07 2021 at 02:24