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When was the game up for prog rock?

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Poll Question: What event made you think it was over?
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The game was up for classic prog around about 1980, but all was not lost, as the birth of the Neo-Prog era was just around the corner. Smile
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Hi,

I'm not sure that any of these were "it", although they probably helped in some ways.

To me, the best example, was when both Led Zepellin and The Rolling Stones, each got over 100 million in the 70's and the next day, we could tell ... the number of bands that were dropped by many record labels was quite evident and the music suffered.

However, the "import" market in America was now very strong, and it helped keep many bands in the spotlight, until the early 80's when the corporate raiders started buying all the FM stations and removed the individual disk jockey and their unusual choices for music and replaced them with "rock classics" the same kind of merde that folks listen to these days, and think it's the best music, when it wasn't!

I have no dislikes for LZ or RS, and they probably deserved it, but their riches caused a lot of record companies to cut corners, to ensure they could make the money back, and as such they stopped investing in many bands that were not considered good sellers, or just had a niche market, which a lot of the early "progressive" music had.

To me, this carnivorous process is what hurt the most. And it became the time for mememememe and the greed for the money! I think it OK to make money, but I think it NOT OK to be greedy about it!

The good news is that "progressive" is still alive which tells you that many record companies lost their ability to even make themselves some really good money on many bands that went their own way, and left the companies only making nickels for the delivery of the albums! In my book, I really want all of these companies to die off, and allow the artist a chance to make it on their own, not with someone's idea of hits and stealing fame and fortune from many folks.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 12:40
None of these because prog is obviously still going. 

Prog never really went away. It just went underground where it stayed for a very long time. You could even argue it still is there. 

I suppose I could vote for one of these but none are really standing out for me. When neo prog came around that was sort of a mutated version of prog so maybe when the first neo prog album appeared. Nothing like that is an option though. The Asia debut might be the closest so maybe I'll vote for that. I'll have to think about it.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sacro_Porgo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 12:27
I guess you mean which of these put a cap on the golden years of prog, when it enjoyed the most commercial success (which wasn't much but still), had the most important and influential bands and albums come out, and most importantly when said important bands hadn't yet gone pop.

I'd say if Follow You, Follow Me seemed more like a fluke than a new trend, the cover of Love Beach would have to be the moment of realization for someone alive at the time that things were changing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 12:17
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Tuesday. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 12:12
Tuesday. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hercules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 12:07
The game was never up, or we wouldn't be where we are now.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tapfret Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 11:43
What event made me think it was over?

My death.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Easy Money Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 11:41
Fripp did not dissolve KC, Giles and McDonald did not want to tour anymore.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 11:03
Maybe all of the above.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 10:49
The simple evolution of music, you could even say the progression of music. It may have been more into the 80's than end of the 70's.
Just listen to King Crimson~Discipline from 1981, that has Talking Heads, The Police sounds/influence written all over it. There was so much music genre evolution going on that progressive rock was not able to adjust, or wanted to. Hard rock became more mainstream, punk coming on, metal/thrash/hair metal, just all that stuff becoming more mainstream.....It seems Genesis, Yes, Rush made some adjustments and became more popular with of course Genesis becoming gigantic.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 10:43
The best years of prog have been the last decade. Just took a breather in the 80's. Maybe some prog musicians wanted to make a living from music and wrote more commercial tunes?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 10:09
Haha, nice one. I was too young in 1976; I remember that in 1978 I heard Follow Me Follow You on the radio but as it was the first Genesis thing I ever heard, the significance of it passed me by. The Buggles were fun so I didn't mind them uniting with Yes.
I do remember however being already into prog when Asia's first album came out, and how disappointing I found it given the names behind it. So this is how these heroes do things now??
At which time Fripp's new King Crimson were in splendid form.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 09:43
Apart from continental Europe, the end of the 70s marked the incremental erosion of progressive rock - simplification for the sake of it.  What event made you think the best is over?
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