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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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it occurs to me, quite suddenly, that my uncle had more of an influence on me than my mum and dad. Maybe not necessarily in my choice of what I listened to, so much as in my love for music. My mum’s younger brother was the one who had travelled the world, and been to so many concerts and festivals, and worked at one of the two local AM radio stations. (Apart from the student radio station, we had no FM stations in my hometown when I was growing up.)
I remember voraciously reading all his old music mags, although I paid more attention to the familiar, than the unknown. I knew only Whiter Shade of Pale from Procul Harum, and Nights In White Satin from Moody Blues, but after reading about those songs, and then more, I got into those bands. He was fairly dismissive about the Beatles which is why, I expect, I didn’t listen to them until years later. He was probably responsible for my getting into Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath, too, which would have been the heaviest things in my collection. He’s deaf now, which must be horrible for someone whose life revolved around music.... 😔 [EDIT] i forgot to mention what prompted me to write this, which was the mention of jealousy in the post above. My uncle had seen several bands I liked, but what I was (and remain) jealous about was his having seen Bowie twice. In the end, he saw Bowie three times, and I saw him once. So I guess I’m not as jealous now as i once was, but there’s still a tinge..... Edited by nick_h_nz - January 20 2021 at 01:34 |
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Spacegod87 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 16 2019 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1107 |
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I'm 33 and my father is about 70. He saw 'Yes' live in the 70s and I'm still jealous about it.
I was never a jealous person, even as a teenage girl, but when my dad told me he saw Yes live in the 70s, I was jealous of him. And when he said he was too high at the time to appreciate it and didn't really care about the songs they were playing (he was never a big fan) I got bitter and told him that the 70s was wasted on him lol! Poor dad. Shouldn't have said that, but he laughed about it. |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12810 |
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My mother was never all that much into music. Though she did like 70's and 80's pop music, which are some of the first things I got to like. It was my grandmother who had some prog LP's... she particularly liked Focus, specially Hamburger Concerto, and so I got to like that one when I borrowed it. She also had Harmonium, though I don't think she ever payed that much attention to that album... yet I got to love it too thanks to that. And then, she also had, Jetrho Tull's Live Bursting Out and Yes' Relayer (even though I didn't get that much into those ones at the time, it was later on that I looked for those ones too). She also had some other classic rock albums from the 60's and 70's that I borrowed and enjoyed. Among a lot of classical, which is which she really loves most (and I didn't check out anyway).
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12810 |
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What's wrong with that? I wish teens in the gym would put Porcupine Tree. They will usually put Regaetton or Hip Hop. |
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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No. And in fact, I don't come from any kind of serious rock/pop background at all. We did have tapes of Beatles and ABBA at home. And Santana's Supernatural. Dad read a glowing review in the papers and bought it. At the time, it felt like a whole other world of music from our vantage point of Indian music. The track Yaleo from that album might be the first time I was exposed to the concept of extended instrumental sections with soloists (there is a piano solo before Santana takes over, sort of like jazz).
I started getting into rock through a college friend's recommendations in my early twenties. And by now, stuff like Wiki had happened. So...I found out that Pink Floyd was called progressive rock. I clicked on the term to read the article about progressive rock and read about bands like Genesis, Yes, etc. And then I found out about this website. And one thing led to another...
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18905 |
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I don't agree with all of their picks but I think some of them at least could be considered good for the entry level prog fan. None of the ones I know are bad though(just maybe not the best for someone brand new). Some I don't actually know.
Anyway, I don't have children so nothing to talk about there. My dad is only marginally responsible for my discovery of prog in that he had a copy of "the Yes album." I don't think he had anything else that could be considered prog in the strictest sense. He did have "birds of fire" also but that's really more fusion(even if that could be considered prog in the looser sense). I got more into prog through a cousin who was into Genesis but there were even other factors besides him (and my dad)for getting me into prog. I've tried to get my brother(who is older than me)into prog but other than liking some Yes and seeing them and King Crimson in concert with me it never really happened. It's like that expression about leading a horse to water but not being able to make him drink.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13221 |
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Humorously enough, my daughter is not too big into prog, some Floyd, a bit of Tull (she plays flute and bass), and that's about it. What we talk about and listen to together is Sinatra, Dave Brubeck, John Coltrane and Louis Armstrong. And her boyfriend is into blues, so I take out my Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, Son House and Skip James albums and listen to those, as well as jam the blues (he plays guitar also). It's pretty hilarious these 20 somethings are listening to more of my dad's stuff than mine (the ol' man when he was alive could tell you in detail about albums from Gene Krupa, Glenn Miller, Satchmo, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, Charlie Parker, etc.).
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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My daughter, though certainly has her own taste in music, appreciates some of the prog music I listen to. She is into vocals a lot, specially broadway music and opera, but like many songs by Jethro Tull, Nektar, Deep Purple, etc.
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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My dad is a big fan of classic rock radio. That's the sort of stuff he grew up with. I know the first band he was into (like many boys in 1978) was Kiss. Later on though he learned a bit about prog since he was in a couple garage bands in the 80s and some of the other players were into Rush and Maiden and Queensryche and stuff like that, and of course listening to the radio long enough he knew about Yes and Pink Floyd and 80s Genesis. After he got done with garage bands I think he went in a more folk singer-songwriter direction with his listening. Lots of James Taylor, David Wilcox, Louden and Rufus Wainright, Jeff Buckley, etc. But he never totally stopped listening to classic rock.
Mom was never as big into music as Dad, but she also had her own favorites that I've grown to love as well. Heart, Styx, Kansas, Pat Benetar, etc. A bit of Prince of course, and Madonna. And especially Chicago (the 70s hits mainly, and their Christmas CDs). I swear I've known Saturday In The Park longer than I've been alive. Anyway I started getting into music around middle school. Uninterested in Katy Perry, Lady Antebellum, or Kanye West, I started playing saxophone in 6th grade as well as guitar hero. My private saxophone teacher taught me the blues scale early on (something my piano teacher never mentioned in all my years of lessons), and I quickly discovered I could use that scale to play the riffs to songs I was playing on guitar hero and hearing on classic rock radio. Anyway a good while later I'm pretty much a classic rock purist (with a solid affection for jazz). Most anything after Nirvana was a non-starter, and anything pop, country, or hip hop was strictly uncool. Not the most open world view but it led me to explore in other directions as my musical appetite grew. As I transitioned into high school my Dad introduced me to Rush. I heard 2112 on Pandora and I was blown away. Later one day Dad came to pick me up from school with a CD of A Farewell To Kings that had just come in from Amazon and the was when I knew Rush was one of my favorite bands (only after Queen). Research led me to find Rush was something called progressive rock (as well as Queen to an extent), and more research over a longer period of time led me to become exponentially more interested in this everything and the kitchen sink sub genre. I quickly became more of a music nerd than my Dad, but I also got him to check out a lot more music than he had before. I even got my Mom to appreciate a bit of Dream Theatre! Oh, and I outgrew my aversion to hip hop, pop, and everything that came with grunge and after it. I admit defeat in having ever given country a really fair shot, though I know a few artists I think are decent, but I imagine in time I may find what I like there as well.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24628 |
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My father (d. 2012) listened mostly to easy listening, sometimes a bit jazzy or modern classical. My mother has, even to this day, little affinity to music whatsoever. I have two brothers: one I have discarded, another listens mostly to folk and sometimes to prog, and the youngest as some affinity to prog, but less than me.
My daughter seems to prefer the Beatles.
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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My mom and dad were into Türk Sanat Müziği (Turkish Art Music) mostly. My father is supremely talented in music and he even learned to play the violin without any help or education, together with several other string instruments like cumbush and oud. His voice is also awesome. I think I got my talent in music from him. My mum is just the opposite. Zero talent! Haha. (Though she is very good at drawing and painting, and my dad, like me, has no interest in those and probably no talent too.)
My older and only brother and I were sharing the same tastes in music for a long time, but he got into the Pink Floyd depression in his teens, and I chose the metal mania. So, I still can watch horror movies and my bro cannot. We are like day and night with my brother now. Though, he began to listen to metal again and is still listening. Yet, he likes folk metal and stuff, that I have almost zero interest in. What was the question, prog rock affinity? Well, I can say I met Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd's earlier albums thanks to my brother. (I bought The Division Bell myself, my first acquaintance with their albums. I loved and still love High hopes, but the rest of the album was boring for me.) Anyway, I loved prog rock in the 2000s via the internet. Edited by Shadowyzard - January 19 2021 at 16:18 |
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zwordser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 04 2008 Location: Southwest US Status: Offline Points: 1398 |
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Haha! The influence of my parents on my taste for Prog Rock?? ZIP. My Dad grew up in the 50's, and still likes some 50's rock--particularly light pop tunes. My Mom listens to almost nothing but Classical (occasionally some crooners, or Ukrainian folk that she used to dance to). She did have some influence on me for Classical music, as she used to be a skilled pianist and played some of the more difficult Chopin (Polonaises, Mazurkas and such). Largely due to this influence, Chopin is still my favorite classical artist. Needless to say, they mostly dislike my taste in Prog Rock, although they sometimes listen in to my prog radio programs (more out of courtesy and/or to hear my voice than anything). Mom's already told me she can't stand most of the music, and Dad has made no comments at all. (& I have no children). Edited by zwordser - January 19 2021 at 16:01 |
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Progosopher ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 12 2009 Location: Coolwood Status: Offline Points: 6472 |
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Both my parents were Country and Western fans. They tolerated rock music as long as it had lyrics and basic song structures, but once I started listening to Prog, Jazz, J/R Fusion, and Classical, my mom asked me why I was listening to that "long-haired music." So, no musical affinities between generations there.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 3927 |
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My Dad was into Jazz and big band music and secretly always wanted to be a drummer (his heros were Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa) but he was unimpressed by 'Pop' music (you call that lyrics?? its all 'Baby, baby, baby..') We did talk about Jazz later, before he died and my interests and explorations into jazz came out of those conversations.
My Mum liked fairly easy listening and light classics though did admit (later) that she did find 'some' of the music i played 'interesting'.. althouh she didnt play any instruments she came from a family who had various classical musicians amongst them and it turned out after her death that she had secretly been writing poetry and certainly was someone moved deeply by Art. Both my kids play instruments and have been involved in music; not so much my daughter nowadays is too busy with children and other interests but my son plays in a number of bands, records, produces and collaborates with other bands and musicians. His taste is very wide and although much of what i'm into, he isnt, there are certain lps and bands we do enjoy and he will listen to my recommendations and we have a good, open discussion about it. Its great! i'm lucky dad and it gives me a great buzz to sit and talk music with him. We saw Rush as a family on the 'time machine' tour which was great fun and my daughter (in her mid 30's) used to come with me to festivals like Cropredy and was going to take a masters degree in english folk music at Newcastle (but didnt in the end..) An honourable mention for my older brother who first brought home cassettes by Focus, Mike Oldfield, Camel, Yes and so really was the one who introduced me to progressive rock.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37153 |
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My parents were into classical music and my dad despised rock music and looked down on most pop music. The only thing he would share his utter derision for more than the Beatles was Louis Mountbatten and pineapple on pizza.
Funnily enough, one of his best friends was a lyricist in soundtrack pop music and for a time after he left military intelligence my dad managed a music hall. We would often have small classical music concerts in the house when growing up, but playing rock music in the house would have been almost taboo (not that my brother cared and he exposed me to lots of stuff). So I got used to keeping my music to myself (or when at friends' houses I'd listen to what they listened to -- they got me into Zep, Cream, Yes, CCR etc.). My children don't like my music, and I haven't tried to push it on them -- they haven't shown any interest. My son isn't really into music although he sometimes makes music for fun on his computer (he's a maths and sciences nerd). My other child listens to certain kinds of pop stuff used for making videos. My Australian grandma, who I didn't know very well, loved ABBA, as does my wife. I like ABBA too. |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17965 |
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Thankfully my parents were not into the Beatles, so I blame them for me not listening to them growing up, and today
![]() My mom has always been into pop music but she also understands who I listen to, mainly Rush and EW&F growing up. My dad was into latin music and classical music, the closest he came to pop music was for some reason he liked Donna Summers, especially album Bad Girls....strange. As far as my kids they know who I listen to they have seen Rush at least 3x with wife and I. My oldest son was into Iron Maiden, he has seen them 2x and saw Haken, Leprous with me. My other 2 sons have seen Iron Maiden several times, it's not music they listen to regularly but they love going to the Maiden live shows, I mean who does not!! My youngest son saw Riverside with me couple yrs ago.........but for the most part they listen to rap, country and classic rock...middle son goes to country festivals all the time. I'm glad they are varied in what they listen to.
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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The closet to prog my mum and dad came was Abba, which is to say, not very prog. But, like SW, I can definitely identify the progressive nature of Abba’s pop music, and their enjoyment of Abba transferred down to me. I can’t say I listen to Abba these days, and I couldn’t tell you when I last did (it would be years ago), but for sure, I think that was part of my grounding in and entry to prog, even if it were not actually prog per se.
Apart from Abba, the only music I can remember my dad listening to is Simon & Garfunkel and Neil Diamond, who again I still appreciate to this day (though I have only Simon & Garfunkel in my own collection, and no Neil Diamond). My mum listened to classical music, but I couldn’t tell you exactly what. The music intrigued me, but bewildered me as much. I was too young, I think to be able to fully appreciate what she was listening to. The closest I came to appreciating classical music back then was my love for the soundtrack to Empire Strikes Back. That is, not much. I honestly don’t think there was any one person that put me onto prog. A lot of it came from vaguely prog-related stuff like Bowie and Queen, who I loved from the radio, and whose albums I would buy when I was finally able to buy my own music. Pink Floyd and Genesis I came to from their radio hits, which were more often than not their less than proggy offerings. My first Pink Floyd album was Momentary Lapse and my first Genesis album was Invisible Touch, which gives you an idea of when I started buying music for myself. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15146 |
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My father had some amazingly good music and actually got me into prog by playing Manfred Mann's Earthband Watch in the car once. I then discovered he had some Novalis, ELP, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull and a few other really good albums. But at the time I became aware of these things he had already stopped listening to prog. Actually he had put in the Watch tape accidentally and didn't even remember who it was! I think he played Novalis and ELP once or twice while I was already consciously interested in music at the age of 14 or so, but that was that. He went into softer things and then classical. OK, to each one his own taste, but it really alienated me a bit from him that while I was discovering all this great stuff, he totally lost his interest. Oh, and my mother, while not apparently having much of an active interest in music, took my brother and me to the cinema to watch Yellow Submarine even earlier, which was also a big thing for my musical taste. But as my father, while I became a total Beatles fan for a few years, and she supported that, herself she wouldn't listen to them much. I think she picked Yellow Submarine not because it meant that much to her, but rather because she somehow had the correct intuition that we may like it. Edited by Lewian - January 19 2021 at 11:07 |
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triptych ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 27 2019 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 870 |
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Most teens today listen only to Porcupine Tree and Radiohead.. that is their idea of alt prog......OMFG !!!
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