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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

A lot of bands and the videos to me are prog metal lite, like reeeeeeally lite. I don't do any death metal so I guess prog metal sits between death metal and heavy prog/hard rock prog.

Some of Redemption is about as hard as I get, Snowfall On Judgment Day is a great album.

As far as DT goes, I listen to everything up to BC&SL, after that it really is boring music. Some of ADToE is very good but I suspect Portnoy had a lot of collab with Petrucci on those songs before MP exited stage left. Train Of Thought to me is the classic prog metal album, I love that album and doubt DT will record anything like it ever. It has all the excesses of prog and the metal drumming and guitar, Labrie actually sounds good on that one.


You should give their last one a chance - Distance Over Time - I haven't had fun with DT like that since Octavarium. 

Strangely, the only band Portnoy's been in that I really enjoy is his hard rock project The Winery Dogs. Flying Colors is also pretty enjoyable. But the rest not so much. Neal Morse is fine but often a chore to listen to, Portnoy's project with Russel Allen, Adrenaline Mob,  was bland and his own DT, Sons of Apollo rather boring to me. 
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A lot of bands and the videos to me are prog metal lite, like reeeeeeally lite. I don't do any death metal so I guess prog metal sits between death metal and heavy prog/hard rock prog.

Some of Redemption is about as hard as I get, Snowfall On Judgment Day is a great album.

As far as DT goes, I listen to everything up to BC&SL, after that it really is boring music. Some of ADToE is very good but I suspect Portnoy had a lot of collab with Petrucci on those songs before MP exited stage left. Train Of Thought to me is the classic prog metal album, I love that album and doubt DT will record anything like it ever. It has all the excesses of prog and the metal drumming and guitar, Labrie actually sounds good on that one.
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^ Threshold is one of my favorite bands, the death of Andrew McDermott was shocking (to me, just 45 years old). The albums with him on vocals are my favorite. 

I've listened to him in three other bands, so talented - Sargant Fury (heavy/power), Yargos (progressive metal) and PowerWorld (just power metal though, but still good). 
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A few bands you don't hear much about anymore:

Shadow Gallery
Explorer's Club
Cosmosquad
Mastermind (one album was prog metal anyway the rest were heavy prog)
Spiral Architect
Ice Age
Rhapsody (of fire)
Ian Parry
Vanden Plas
Mind's Eye
Threshold (probably more than the others on the list though)

Also, pretty much any band who was on the magna carta label in the 90's and early 2000's who could be called prog metal(not all on that label were prog metal but many were).

The mentioning of Magnitude 9 on the first page is what made me thought of this. 



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Three pages and I made this only yesterday! Discussion is certainly not dead -  it took my neo thread ages to reach this level.
I like Antidepressive Delivery, by the way, Grumpy Prog Fan.
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^ I like the song, the band even plays it live every now and then. 
Better than most stuff after Octavarium in my opinion. 

I'll listen to your songs. No worries. 
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^You got me, but it's not a good song. Probably why it didn't make the cut for the album.

Anyway, DT discussed quite often. How about we explore lesser know bands?
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^Give it your best shot, Chrsti.

ok, first song, one that did not make it on Images & Words (but neither did A Change of Seasons, there is a live version with Kevin Moore, in 1993). 
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^Give it your best shot, Chrsti.

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I like Dream Theater and Ayreon type prog metal and instrumental prog metal like Animals as Leaders or Thought Chamber.   I'm not a fan of Cookie Monster vocals though.  Those ruin bands for me.  I know that everyone says just think of them as another instrument, but they are an "instrument" that I just don't like.  Early Opeth instrumentally is awesome, but I can't listen to them because of the singing.  I like latter day Opeth because the singing is generally really good, but they're not really all that metal on their latter albums. 

This is the camp I am in with progressive metal and growling which has zero appeal to me, it's not an instrument that sounds good, it's like a kazoo on steroids, I am sure none of us here like auto-tune vocals of the pop world either.

There is TONS of prog-metal that I am not going to post videos but the ones I like are:
DT
Mind Key
Riverside
Threshold
Redemption
Circus Maximus

There are many I am forgetting right now but you get the gist.

good bands, you can post whatever videos you like, the OP is a newbie to the world of progressive metal. 

Wanna bet I can post some Dream Theater rarities you have not heard? Evil Smile
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I like Dream Theater and Ayreon type prog metal and instrumental prog metal like Animals as Leaders or Thought Chamber.   I'm not a fan of Cookie Monster vocals though.  Those ruin bands for me.  I know that everyone says just think of them as another instrument, but they are an "instrument" that I just don't like.  Early Opeth instrumentally is awesome, but I can't listen to them because of the singing.  I like latter day Opeth because the singing is generally really good, but they're not really all that metal on their latter albums. 

This is the camp I am in with progressive metal and growling which has zero appeal to me, it's not an instrument that sounds good, it's like a kazoo on steroids, I am sure none of us here like auto-tune vocals of the pop world either.

There is TONS of prog-metal that I am not going to post videos but the ones I like are:
DT
Mind Key
Riverside
Threshold
Redemption
Circus Maximus

There are many I am forgetting right now but you get the gist.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I like Dream Theater and Ayreon type prog metal and instrumental prog metal like Animals as Leaders or Thought Chamber.   I'm not a fan of Cookie Monster vocals though.  Those ruin bands for me.  I know that everyone says just think of them as another instrument, but they are an "instrument" that I just don't like.  Early Opeth instrumentally is awesome, but I can't listen to them because of the singing.  I like latter day Opeth because the singing is generally really good, but they're not really all that metal on their latter albums. 

Growling is a hit and miss with me, but I like death metal Opeth, that kind of growling I don't mind. I like bands like Edge of Sanity, but then again it's Dan Swano, whether he sings (Nightingale) or growls (Witherscape), I'll give him a chnce. His solo album from 1998 - Moontower is excellent, it's got neo-prog, progressive metal and death metal all in one.  LOL
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I like Dream Theater and Ayreon type prog metal and instrumental prog metal like Animals as Leaders or Thought Chamber.   I'm not a fan of Cookie Monster vocals though.  Those ruin bands for me.  I know that everyone says just think of them as another instrument, but they are an "instrument" that I just don't like.  Early Opeth instrumentally is awesome, but I can't listen to them because of the singing.  I like latter day Opeth because the singing is generally really good, but they're not really all that metal on their latter albums. 
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Another heavy prog entry.
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^I dig the vocals. Lots of passion. Kind of a cross between Courtney Swain (Bent Knee) and Cedric Bixler (The Mars Volta).
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

This is a new heavy prog band for me.


too quirky for my taste, I don't like the vocals much either. 
But I understand the appeal, at least. 
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This is a new heavy prog band for me. Raw, energetic, and fun.



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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

can we not complain anymore actually discuss, mention bands we listen and like and so on. Just saying... 

Sure we can, it just keeps getting ignored. I made an entire thread for Pestilence Spheres that nobody cared about, lol Wink.


I don't think you are ignored, just that people either don't know or do not listen to progressive death metal. 
I know Pestilence, although I haven't listened to them in a long time. Guitar work and rhythm section are great, the vocals not so much. If the vocals don't grate my ear I can listen to any kind of death metal. 
There are a few bands but not that many. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

can we not complain anymore actually discuss, mention bands we listen and like and so on. Just saying... 

Sure we can, it just keeps getting ignored. I made an entire thread for Pestilence Spheres that nobody cared about, lol Wink.

This track in particular exemplifies progressive rock odd meter/time riffing IMHO, wait for the main riff to kick in before first verse:




Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - September 22 2020 at 01:48

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