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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

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I've been wondering recently whether there has been a new wave of prog bands I've somehow missed out, ad furthermore, whether any modern prog bands have actually broke the charts.
According to Wikipedia, there's a genre called "new prog", can anyone give me any information on this? 
I've come to the conclusion that "new prog" (or indeed "nu prog" Steve G Wink) is more of a wave of bands than a subgenre... it still seems very under promoted at PA. I'd only really heard of the newer bands Spock's Beard, the Mars Volta, Steven Wilson and Dream Theater before making this topic, and I'm not that ignorant. (Well, I don't know... I hadn't heard of Caravan until recently) LOL.

1995, 2003, 1991, 1989, four these are only 'newer' in comparison to the 70's golden age. Of those artists most of the original members are probably in their 50's.

Can I interest you in some PoiL, ni, Chromb, Zevious, Horse Lords, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, The Cellar & Point, Diablo Swing Orchestra, elephant9?
That just made me think of an awful joke.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

I've been wondering recently whether there has been a new wave of prog bands I've somehow missed out, ad furthermore, whether any modern prog bands have actually broke the charts.
According to Wikipedia, there's a genre called "new prog", can anyone give me any information on this? 
I've come to the conclusion that "new prog" (or indeed "nu prog" Steve G Wink) is more of a wave of bands than a subgenre... it still seems very under promoted at PA. I'd only really heard of the newer bands Spock's Beard, the Mars Volta, Steven Wilson and Dream Theater before making this topic, and I'm not that ignorant. (Well, I don't know... I hadn't heard of Caravan until recently) LOL.

1995, 2003, 1991, 1989, four these are only 'newer' in comparison to the 70's golden age. Of those artists most of the original members are probably in their 50's.

Can I interest you in some PoiL, ni, Chromb, Zevious, Horse Lords, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, The Cellar & Point, Diablo Swing Orchestra, elephant9?
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At least you didn't make the mistake that I did when I first joined PA by calling modern prog "Neo-Prog" Smile
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

I've been wondering recently whether there has been a new wave of prog bands I've somehow missed out, ad furthermore, whether any modern prog bands have actually broke the charts.
According to Wikipedia, there's a genre called "new prog", can anyone give me any information on this? 
I've come to the conclusion that "new prog" (or indeed "nu prog" Steve G Wink) is more of a wave of bands than a subgenre... it still seems very under promoted at PA. I'd only really heard of the newer bands Spock's Beard, the Mars Volta, Steven Wilson and Dream Theater before making this topic, and I'm not that ignorant. (Well, I don't know... I hadn't heard of Caravan until recently) LOL.
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I think I've heard of them recently... I'm researching it currently.
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The new Pure Reason Revolution is absolutely brilliant. Any takers?
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I like the music but the vocals are too irritating for me.


I also think they  (Thank You Scientist) are a much better live band than a studio one. Their albums sound rather one-note to me, while their live shows are quite entertaining.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Discipline's debut was '88 and echolyn in '91. Hardly modern.

That Discipline "debut" wasn't first released until five years ago or so. Either way 93 isn't modern either.

Though that's PLENTY modern for some people on this site hehehe.
"I don't like all these new bands, like Dream Theater."

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I like the music but the vocals are too irritating for me.
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Thank You Scientist is for me, one of the better modern prog bands. The brass and string arrangements keep it interesting.
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:


If you like your music to be a little bit strange, then I highly recommend, from 2019:
 
 
Lost Crowns - Every Night Something Happens
 
 
Although I love the entire album, my favourite track is "Sound As Colour":
 
 
 
 


Don't know what to think of this. Both the music and the video are wack, but I could not get myself to stop listening or watching. I may have to check this album out. Thanks?
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Discipline's debut was '88 and echolyn in '91. Hardly modern.

That Discipline "debut" wasn't first released until five years ago or so. Either way 93 isn't modern either.

Though that's PLENTY modern for some people on this site hehehe.
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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

For me personally modern prog is the one that is more influenced by indie/alternative rock/punk rock than by psychedelia/60s pop/70s prog - Oceansize, Pure Reason Revolution, Tool, The Mars Volta, Coheed and Cambria, Mew, Gazpacho, etc. Also love the bands who started as somewhat retro-prog but moved to create their own sound later on - Anekdoten, Porcupine Tree, h's Marillion

Check this video, some cool points there:


Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

This would seem to be bands that formed after 2000 that don't just mimic former generations

Oddly enough, these bands are as retro-prog as retro could be:
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Wobbler
All Traps On Earth
Birds & Buildings


These though more like it:
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Riverside
Kayo Dot
The Mars Volta
Haken

Birds & Buildings isn't THAT retro to my ears. At least, it doesn't sound like a rehash of the the incredibly influential bands that we usually get threads about every day (you know, those heavy hitters in symph and eclectic from that little decade called 68-78). To be fair, I've only heard their first record. I do like it though. Pretty avant honestly. Other groups that are somewhat similar and definitely "new" prog:
-An Endless Sporadic
-iNFiNiEN
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My favourite 21st century prog album is the 2009 release (as a free download), Maudlin Of The Well - Part The Second:
 

 
Maudlin Of The Well - Part The Second
 
 
For me, the highlight track is the final track, "Laboratories of the Invisible World (Rollerskating the Cosmic Palmistric Postborder)":
 

 
 



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That's a brilliant album.
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If you like your music to be a little bit strange, then I highly recommend, from 2019:
 
 
Lost Crowns - Every Night Something Happens
 
 
Although I love the entire album, my favourite track is "Sound As Colour":
 
 
 
 


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Discipline's debut was '88 and echolyn in '91. Hardly modern.

That Discipline "debut" wasn't first released until five years ago or so. Either way 93 isn't modern either.
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Discipline's debut was '88 and echolyn in '91. Hardly modern.
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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Echolyn

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Discipline


Love 'em both, especially Discipline. Modern-prog though? Nah, they're heavily inspired by Gentle Giant (Echolyn) and VDGG (Discipline), and of course also by Genesis and King Crimson. So yeah, modern-era prog bands but definitely retro-prog style-wise

I was responding to someone else. It's not necessarily my opinion that they are modern either. However, I don't hear much retro prog in echolyn at least not in a while for them. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Echolyn

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Discipline


Love 'em both, especially Discipline. Modern-prog though? Nah, they're heavily inspired by Gentle Giant (Echolyn) and VDGG (Discipline), and of course also by Genesis and King Crimson. So yeah, modern-era prog bands but definitely retro-prog style-wise
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