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Thanks to all those who have replied - Wikipedia does classify Love over Gold as prog, but, after listening to some of their other stuff, I don't think they really ever went further into the genre. Mark Knopfler is a great guitarist though.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

No , just a terribly overrated band with annoying vocals (like U2 and many other eighties bands) .


Yeah, I could probably go with this....

My dislike of DS may be marginally less than yours. but alongside U2 they do represent an 1980's, I'd rather forget; the 'cool' kids at school, strutting around in Rattle & Hum, or Brothers in Arms tee shirts, like they'd just discovered the guitar. They needed reminding that two years before they were listening to A-Ha and Go West (both of which I'd also rather listen to than U2 & DS )

Dire Straights, U2, INXS et al = Rock music for people who don't like rock music.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2020 at 00:08
No , just a terribly overrated band with annoying vocals (like U2 and many other eighties bands) .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 16:04
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ You were bored to death by Making Movies? Confused


even the album sleeve is boring as hell Sleepy

And Solid Puke is a total repellent à la Walk Of Life



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The B side of their albums are usually less beatiful than side A.




Not so with BIAWink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 15:09
I actually like the first two DS albums better than the others. Oh well, I suppose we're all differentSmile.
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II'm not sure that Love Over Gold is their best album. 

It's more proggy, yes, but, is it the best?

The two things are not correlated.

Maybe Making Movies and Brothers in Arms are better.

I think that side A of Making Movies is their best side A, even better than the side A of Love Over Gold.

The B side of their albums are usually less beatiful than side A.


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I'll have a Dire Straits Top 7 Songs poll coming up soon, which was inspired by this thread. Wink
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I would say NO, however, LOVE OVER GOLD probably deserves some more attention as its 5 songs are a bit more than what usual radio will play and much more focused as a piece of music, than some of their previous material that was more song designed, than this album ... this album had a certain amount of freedom that the others didn't, and specially the one album after, that was almost exclusively made for the FM radio, that was beginning to lose its strength and ability to give us all new music!

LOG, if we were not so set on our "definition" of the music, would be considered a nice fit, but since the band did not continue beyond just songs, my take is ... NOPE. I'm not sure that David Knopfler was too interested in a whole lot of things other than his songs after the big hit!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 13:39
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I've found some of my favourite artists on here that I never would have expected to find on a Prog-Rock website, including:- David Bowie; Kate Bush; Electric Light Orchestra; & Queen, to name just a few. I could go on, so I will:- Black Sabbath; Blue Oyster Cult; Led Zeppelin; Uriah Heep, and many more besides. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 13:02
The Love Over Gold album does perhaps (and "Telegraph Road" in particular). Apart from that, not really. I really like them nonetheless.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 12:20
As far as I am concerned, Dire Straits are very much like The Police - wonderful band whose albums get regular spins here, but with very flimsy connections to prog. As the Interactive Polls we are enjoying in this same section of the forum have amply demonstrated, there is a whole lot of great music around that is not prog, or only very tenuously related. On the other hand, there is a lot of very bad music whose prog "credentials" cannot be questioned. I'll keep on enjoying what I like whether it's on PA or not.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Nah....there is no progressive rock music in their albums.

There is no "prog" music in their albums. I think they have their "progressive" moments, but wouldn't consider them overall as progressive rock, nor should they have an entry on PA. Though maybe we need a database for bands that many prog fans enjoy that are not prog or qualify for prog-related. "If you like prog, you might like these bands/artists."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 11:52
^ You were bored to death by Making Movies? Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 11:46
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

No, DS are not prog but it's easy to see why prog fans would like a sophisticated album like Love Over Gold or Making Movies. Good stuff.


If DS had made three stupendous albums ala Love Over Gold, I'd say that they could have a shot at PA, but otherwise no.

While I still love their debutClapStar, their next two albums bore me to death. Sleepy

And TBH, at first, I almost didn't pay attention to LOG because all you heard was Industrial Disease (musically the weakest on that album) over the radio, and at the time, I was diving into 60's psych and 70's JR/F and soon afterwards 60's jazz. But that was one hell of an album.StarClapClapStar; but, I could've easily missed it altogether.

I was expecting very much out of their next release , which turned out to be awful Twisting EP, which was a complete turn off. I wasn't impressed at BIA either at first, because if I didn't mind MFN, I hated the other hits out of it, and by that time, I was almost completely out of the "rock thing". Then I heard at a GF's place the second side of the BIA album, and I found it rather nice (much more in the LOG mood) with strong stuff

One of DS' facet is the roots thing, and this is a gigantic turn off for me, with tracks like Walk Of Life and stuff like that. Very irritating, to the point that if it comes on the radio, I will switch stations.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 11:46
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


...and Pick Withers the drummer in DS used to be in the prog band 'Spring'.
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Good catch doc. Clap
and their later drummer, Terry Williams, was in Welsh band Man.
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No. Their music was originally based in pub and club blues, but they were certainly a damned fine band.
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Nah....there is no progressive rock music in their albums.
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