Men only?

One of my Mum's favourite albums is "Tales From Topographic Oceans" but she despises most of "Relayer", mostly because of Sound Chaser. Allegedly, she likes stuff with a "decent tune and melody". Could her view of "Relayer" be the stereotypical women's view on prog as a whole?

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^^^^now, there's a serious thought; Showaddywaddy had LOADS of female fans (admittedly, most of them were 8 years old)...maybe if marillion dressed up in pink, yellow, blue & green suits, their fanbase might be revolutionised!

Blacksword wrote: fandango wrote: Blacksword wrote: fandango wrote: ^^^ Hi Blacksword, no I haven't, but those I have met who have been into Renaissance, felt that the band was synonymous with AH, and didn't rate the earlier stuff as highly...that seams to be borne out by site reviews here and elsewhere. Of course, it would always be worth giving them a try if I see them around cheaply, but my album shopping list since joining this site has been launched into the stratosphere.... Yeah, me too. I'm drowning in good music at the moment. I suppose there are worse ways to go! Relfs Rennaisance were a very different band as far as I can tell. Discovering them is low down on list of things to do. may I suggest you trading in your blur and oasis albums (and most of your girlfriend's while she's out at work...) with a friendly second hand record dealer, somewhere near you? I'll give it some thought! I find it difficult to sell any albums though, even the crap ones. Although if I ever find my vinyl copy of 'No Jacket Required' it may go through the shredder!!

I really think you ought to stop right there, before you start admitting to owning Showaddywaddy's Greatest Party Album...just grit your teeth and have a clear out....(you might like to dispose of your old albums too)

fandango wrote: Blacksword wrote: fandango wrote: ^^^ Hi Blacksword, no I haven't, but those I have met who have been into Renaissance, felt that the band was synonymous with AH, and didn't rate the earlier stuff as highly...that seams to be borne out by site reviews here and elsewhere. Of course, it would always be worth giving them a try if I see them around cheaply, but my album shopping list since joining this site has been launched into the stratosphere.... Yeah, me too. I'm drowning in good music at the moment. I suppose there are worse ways to go! Relfs Rennaisance were a very different band as far as I can tell. Discovering them is low down on list of things to do. may I suggest you trading in your blur and oasis albums (and most of your girlfriend's while she's out at work...) with a friendly second hand record dealer, somewhere near you?

I'll give it some thought!

I find it difficult to sell any albums though, even the crap ones. Although if I ever find my vinyl copy of 'No Jacket Required' it may go through the shredder!!

I really don't believe that prog is strictly a male dominated genre. I've known several women(back in high school and recently in college) who love prog or prog related bands. My personal feeling is that it really depends on what form of music your parents bring you up on as a child. For example, I was exposed to prog at a very early age(when I was 13) by my mom, who was really into early Genesis/Peter Gabriel era(along with the later Phil Collins years), and I gradually fell in love with the band and began exploring other artists in the genre. But if, for example, I had been brought up in a household that supported rap music, I could have continued that enjoyment and would have ended up with a cd collection consisting of rap and hip hop(god forbid ) I forget what type of psychological term that adheres to, but it's some form of conditioning, I believe.

Maybe what we need is a whole new generation of parents exposing their children to prog?

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Borealis wrote: Trouserpress wrote: Bob Greece wrote: Steve Hogarth of Marillion has been asking fans to take their girlfriends to concerts as he was tired of seeing just men. Why is it that prog appeals more to men than women? What makes Hogarth think that Marillion fans have girlfriends?  That was my thought too. If he want to get girl, he should make music more... erh, less nerdy?

but he did that before, and look what happened...Cover My Eyes, No-one Can, Waiting To Happen & Dry Land!!

please don't wish a repeat of that on us again, just as they've managed to write 'Marbles'

RaphaelT wrote:   Forgive me this silly joke concerning Hogarth's saying, which started whole debate: Is Stephanie feeling alone at Marillion's gigs? And you claim that Renaissance works on ladies? Yay, I have recently presented a certain raven-haired with "Ashes Are Burning" !!

Blacksword's fave track apparently, we just wondered whether it would be appreciated by women in larger numbers than say, Grendel......it sounds like you are in agreement...

Blacksword wrote: fandango wrote: ^^^ Hi Blacksword, no I haven't, but those I have met who have been into Renaissance, felt that the band was synonymous with AH, and didn't rate the earlier stuff as highly...that seams to be borne out by site reviews here and elsewhere. Of course, it would always be worth giving them a try if I see them around cheaply, but my album shopping list since joining this site has been launched into the stratosphere.... Yeah, me too. I'm drowning in good music at the moment. I suppose there are worse ways to go! Relfs Rennaisance were a very different band as far as I can tell. Discovering them is low down on list of things to do.

may I suggest you trading in your blur and oasis albums (and most of your girlfriend's while she's out at work...) with a friendly second hand record dealer, somewhere near you?

^^^ Hi Blacksword, no I haven't, but those I have met who have been into Renaissance, felt that the band was synonymous with AH, and didn't rate the earlier stuff as highly...that seams to be borne out by site reviews here and elsewhere.

Of course, it would always be worth giving them a try if I see them around cheaply, but my album shopping list since joining this site has been launched into the stratosphere....

fandango wrote: I am listening to Renaissance at the moment...(Scheherazade if you are interested...) and was wondering what the make up of their audiences used to be, genderwise... ....Blacksword, Peter, any ideas?

I saw them once.  They opened for Gentle Giant in 1976 in LA.  Hard to tell who was a Renaissance fan but they were well received.  The Male/Female split was about 60/40 unlike Prog conerts now that are real sausage fests. The only time there is a line in the mens bathroom. Worse than Football games.

 

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