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timothy leary 
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 Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:47 |
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Tim found a friend. How nice.  |
Steve you should know it was sarcasm, best you keep ignoring me
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:25 |
Tim found a friend. How nice.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:23 |
SteveG wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
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I don't care about political position. People should not carry around firearms in public, period.
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Cool, I empathize with that opinion. I would never carry a firearm in public. However, in the USA it's legal in most states to carry firearms. I support the 2nd Amendment of the USA's constitution. |
And I think it is outdated and should be removed. There was a historical reason for it, but this reason is no longer applicable today. This 2nd amendment is one of the main reasons why the USA has by far the most gun-related killings per capita in the world.
[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, repealing the 2nd Amendment would not stop criminals in this country from getting guns. The problem has moved far beyond that now.[/QUOTE]
Criminal elements always have ways to get access to guns. This is not different in Germany either.
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SteveG
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:20 |
BaldFriede wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
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I don't care about political position. People should not carry around firearms in public, period.
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Cool, I empathize with that opinion. I would never carry a firearm in public. However, in the USA it's legal in most states to carry firearms. I support the 2nd Amendment of the USA's constitution. [/QUOTE] And I think it is outdated and should be removed. There was a historical reason for it, but this reason is no longer applicable today. This 2nd amendment is one of the main reasons why the USA has by far the most gun-related killings per capita in the world.
[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, repealing the 2nd Amendment would not stop criminals in this country from getting guns. The problem has moved far beyond that now.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:04 |
omphaloskepsis wrote:
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I don't care about political position. People should not carry around firearms in public, period.
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Cool, I empathize with that opinion. I would never carry a firearm in public. However, in the USA it's legal in most states to carry firearms. I support the 2nd Amendment of the USA's constitution. [/QUOTE] And I think it is outdated and should be removed. There was a historical reason for it, but this reason is no longer applicable today. This 2nd amendment is one of the main reasons why the USA has by far the most gun-related killings per capita in the world.
Edited by BaldFriede - November 24 2021 at 11:07
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:57 |
[/QUOTE]
I don't care about political position. People should not carry around firearms in public, period.
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Cool, I empathize with that opinion. I would never carry a firearm in public. However, in the USA it's legal in most states to carry firearms. I support the 2nd Amendment of the USA's constitution.
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timothy leary
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:41 |
CosmicVibration wrote:
timothy leary wrote:
CosmicVibration wrote:
After reviewing some videos, regardless of the assailants’
criminal records it should have been an open and shut case. It was clearly self-defense…
Rosenbaum should not have been shot and killed. He shouldn’t
have been there; he should have been behind bars. However, I will drink to one less pedophile in
the world.
Kyle Rittenhouse was lucky; the young lad could have been hospitalized
or killed. Are his assailants going to
be charged?
It’s hard to tell from the video if Kyle meant to shoot
Grosskretz in the arm. This would have
been a mistake, in a situation like that you don’t aim to injure. For survival, the threat needs to be neutralized;
the predator needs to be made nonfunctional.
All in all things worked out…
Next time i’m out drinking I may have to order a Rittenhouse! 
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This does not look like you hate violence. Putting you on the buddy list also....fist bump |
Short memory? Selective memory? trouble comprehending? posted only 30 minutes ago:
I detest violence… There are 2 types of violence, antisocial and asocial. In antisocial aggression there is a way out and should be taken. Usually, there’s 2 male gorillas beating their chests and throwing sh*t at each other to establish dominance. It doesn’t have to escalate and go asocial if one of them backs down. There is a fine line between the two, an example of antisocial behavior on the edge would be - say you accidentally bumped into someone in a bar and apologized. However, the drunken fool postured in front of his friends and wanted to start a fight. You apologize again but he throws his drink in your face. Your friends are watching, what do you do? Is there still a chance you can talk your way out of it? Yes, this would be Close to the Edge,  but it doesn’t necessarily have to turn asocial. You can place a ten or twenty on the bar, tell the bartender that because of you that guy spilled his drink and would like to buy him another one. Then start backing away slowly toward an exit, be vigilant and get the hell out of there. It’s worth 20 bucks not to engage, not to take a chance of ending up in jail, hospital, or morgue. In an asocial situation there is now way out, no amount of talking and there is nothing that can be done to avert the violence about to take place. If someone has a knife to your throat or a gun to your head this is an asocial situation and there is only one way out. There is only one person walking away on their own accord, I hope you have to necessary tools in your tool bag to be you. There are a lot of predators in the world, and I hope no one here ever encounters one. Examine the video closely and then decide for yourself if what Kyle faced was antisocial or asocial? Try not to be swayed by some of the brainless comments on some of the videos. Violence is hardly ever the answer, but when it is the answer, it’s the only answer. |
Love that little extra touch you give your posts where you demean other posters. Keep up the good work.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:41 |
omphaloskepsis wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
As to the people "attacking" Rittenhouse: When you see a guy with a rifle running around in the streets there are in my opinion only two things you can do: Either hide or try to take the gun away from him. I would probably go for the "hide" option, but our daughters Alice and Dorothy would definitely disarm him; they have black belts in judo and taekwondo.
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So you think folks should have taken away the weapons the Antifa and Black Lives Matter were carrying? This video shows Rosenbaum approaching multiple armed men. Including rifle toting Black Lives Matter people. Rosenbaum screams several times, " Shoot me, N-word!" Eyes and ears don't lie. This video took place only minutes before Rosenbaum took BaldFriede's advise.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/kenosha-shooting-victim-seen-in-video-confronting-armed-men/
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I don't care about political position. People should not carry around firearms in public, period.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:28 |
timothy leary wrote:
CosmicVibration wrote:
After reviewing some videos, regardless of the assailants’
criminal records it should have been an open and shut case. It was clearly self-defense…
Rosenbaum should not have been shot and killed. He shouldn’t
have been there; he should have been behind bars. However, I will drink to one less pedophile in
the world.
Kyle Rittenhouse was lucky; the young lad could have been hospitalized
or killed. Are his assailants going to
be charged?
It’s hard to tell from the video if Kyle meant to shoot
Grosskretz in the arm. This would have
been a mistake, in a situation like that you don’t aim to injure. For survival, the threat needs to be neutralized;
the predator needs to be made nonfunctional.
All in all things worked out…
Next time i’m out drinking I may have to order a Rittenhouse!
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This does not look like you hate violence. Putting you on the buddy list also....fist bump |
Short memory? Selective memory? trouble comprehending? posted only 30 minutes ago:
I detest violence… There are 2 types of violence, antisocial and asocial. In antisocial aggression there is a way out and should be taken. Usually, there’s 2 male gorillas beating their chests and throwing sh*t at each other to establish dominance. It doesn’t have to escalate and go asocial if one of them backs down. There is a fine line between the two, an example of antisocial behavior on the edge would be - say you accidentally bumped into someone in a bar and apologized. However, the drunken fool postured in front of his friends and wanted to start a fight. You apologize again but he throws his drink in your face. Your friends are watching, what do you do? Is there still a chance you can talk your way out of it? Yes, this would be Close to the Edge, but it doesn’t necessarily have to turn asocial. You can place a ten or twenty on the bar, tell the bartender that because of you that guy spilled his drink and would like to buy him another one. Then start backing away slowly toward an exit, be vigilant and get the hell out of there. It’s worth 20 bucks not to engage, not to take a chance of ending up in jail, hospital, or morgue. In an asocial situation there is now way out, no amount of talking and there is nothing that can be done to avert the violence about to take place. If someone has a knife to your throat or a gun to your head this is an asocial situation and there is only one way out. There is only one person walking away on their own accord, I hope you have to necessary tools in your tool bag to be you. There are a lot of predators in the world, and I hope no one here ever encounters one. Examine the video closely and then decide for yourself if what Kyle faced was antisocial or asocial? Try not to be swayed by some of the brainless comments on some of the videos. Violence is hardly ever the answer, but when it is the answer, it’s the only answer.
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:27 |
BaldFriede wrote:
As to the people "attacking" Rittenhouse: When you see a guy with a rifle running around in the streets there are in my opinion only two things you can do: Either hide or try to take the gun away from him. I would probably go for the "hide" option, but our daughters Alice and Dorothy would definitely disarm him; they have black belts in judo and taekwondo.
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So you think folks should have taken away the weapons the Antifa and Black Lives Matter were carrying? This video shows Rosenbaum approaching multiple armed men. Including rifle toting Black Lives Matter people. Rosenbaum screams several times, " Shoot me, N-word!" Eyes and ears don't lie. This video took place only minutes before Rosenbaum took BaldFriede's advise.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/kenosha-shooting-victim-seen-in-video-confronting-armed-men/
Edited by omphaloskepsis - November 24 2021 at 10:28
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:22 |
BaldFriede wrote:
As to the people "attacking" Rittenhouse: When you see a guy with a rifle running around in the streets there are in my opinion only two things you can do: Either hide or try to take the gun away from him. I would probably go for the "hide" option, but our daughters Alice and Dorothy would definitely disarm him; they have black belts in judo and taekwondo.
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It’s not that cut and dry… Each scenario and situation would
be different and there is a third option, call the cops.
I have guns but I don’t like guns and get uneasy around people
that I don’t know with guns. If saw
someone walking or running around with a gun in an area that was perfectly legal
to do so, I would choose to leave that area. It would be illegal and very stupid
to try and disarm that person if the individual wasn’t breaking any laws.
The notion of disarming even a predator is ill-advised. The gun is not the threat, the person is, or
more to the point, his brain is. That’s
what needs to be shut down to eliminate the threat. All the disarming techniques I came across from different martial arts as well as law enforcement are also ill-advised and can get one killed.
Edited by CosmicVibration - November 24 2021 at 10:37
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:16 |
timothy leary wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
[QUOTE=timothy leary]Demonizing the victims? So if someone has been convicted of a crime it is okay too shoot them?
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I love your long posts. I am going to put you on my buddy list. I do not need a video to see which way the wind blows. Minor crosses state line to attend a Blm gathering in order to make black folks behave. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.
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OMG, Rittenhouse crossed state lines! WTF! I would never cross a state line. I'm sure you guys wouldn't cross state lines. God forbid!
Rittenhouse traveled approximately one mile across state lines to where Rittenhouse worked as a life guard. Rittenhouse visited his family and friends that lived in Kenosha, including his grandmother, cousins, and dad. He did not carry a weapon across state lines, because his rifle was kept in Kenosha.
This is what the Media said about Rittenhouse crossing state lines-
https://rumble.com/vpht2x-across-state-lines-mashup.html
Edited by omphaloskepsis - November 24 2021 at 10:52
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timothy leary
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:13 |
CosmicVibration wrote:
After reviewing some videos, regardless of the assailants’
criminal records it should have been an open and shut case. It was clearly self-defense…
Rosenbaum should not have been shot and killed. He shouldn’t
have been there; he should have been behind bars. However, I will drink to one less pedophile in
the world.
Kyle Rittenhouse was lucky; the young lad could have been hospitalized
or killed. Are his assailants going to
be charged?
It’s hard to tell from the video if Kyle meant to shoot
Grosskretz in the arm. This would have
been a mistake, in a situation like that you don’t aim to injure. For survival, the threat needs to be neutralized;
the predator needs to be made nonfunctional.
All in all things worked out…
Next time i’m out drinking I may have to order a Rittenhouse!
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This does not look like you hate violence. Putting you on the buddy list also....fist bump
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:50 |
Atavachron wrote:
^ Ah, our right-wing sociopaths have chimed in. Interesting that supporters of treason would also support a 17 year-old idiot with a rifle. Makes sense, I suppose.
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LOL… Our left-wing pedophile sounded off. Do you have any clue as to what you’re spouting? It’s obvious that you have a fading and
selective memory, but you must recall some of my answers as to my stance on
different matters.
On majority of issues, I lean left, far left even. However, I do recognize that there are sociopaths
and all sorts of crazies on both sides of the aisle.
I detest violence… There are 2 types of violence, antisocial
and asocial. In antisocial aggression there
is a way out and should be taken.
Usually, there’s 2 male gorillas beating their chests and throwing sh*t
at each other to establish dominance. It
doesn’t have to escalate and go asocial if one of them backs down.
There is a fine line between the two, an example of
antisocial behavior on the edge would be - say you accidentally bumped into someone in a
bar and apologized. However, the drunken
fool postured in front of his friends and wanted to start a fight. You apologize again but he throws his drink
in your face. Your friends are watching,
what do you do? Is there still a chance you can talk your way out of it?
Yes, this would be Close to the Edge,  but it doesn’t necessarily
have to turn asocial. You can place a
ten or twenty on the bar, tell the bartender that because of you that guy spilled
his drink and would like to buy him another one. Then start backing away slowly toward an exit,
be vigilant and get the hell out of there. It’s worth 20 bucks not to engage,
not to take a chance of ending up in jail, hospital, or morgue.
In an asocial situation there is now way out, no amount of
talking and there is nothing that can be done to avert the violence about to
take place. If someone has a knife to your throat or a gun to your head this is
an asocial situation and there is only one way out. There is only one person walking away on
their own accord, I hope you have to necessary tools in your tool bag to be
you.
There are a lot of predators in the world, and I hope no one
here ever encounters one.
Examine the video closely and then decide for yourself if
what Kyle faced was antisocial or asocial?
Try not to be swayed by some of the brainless comments on some of the
videos.
Violence is hardly ever the answer, but when it is the answer,
it’s the only answer.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:36 |
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As to the people "attacking" Rittenhouse: When you see a guy with a rifle running around in the streets there are in my opinion only two things you can do: Either hide or try to take the gun away from him. I would probably go for the "hide" option, but our daughters Alice and Dorothy would definitely disarm him; they have black belts in judo and taekwondo.
Edited by BaldFriede - November 24 2021 at 09:45
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JD
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:27 |
Oh god please don't...I just ate. 
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timothy leary
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:21 |
Easy Money wrote:
Anyway, for those into personality drinks, how about a Matt Gaetz, its a double shot of extra virgin olive oil. It looks gross and it tastes gross too. |
Reminds me of the Rick Santorum days and his acquired nickname.
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:16 |
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Anyway, for those into personality drinks, how about a Matt Gaetz, its a double shot of extra virgin olive oil. It looks gross and it tastes gross too.
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timothy leary
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:14 |
omphaloskepsis wrote:
timothy leary wrote:
Demonizing the victims? So if someone has been convicted of a crime it is okay too shoot them?
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Of course not. However; when the video's plainly shows all three criminals chasing Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse ran away from them. Threatening Rittenhouse with words like (Rosenbaum) "When I catch you alone, I will kill you!" Then chasing Rittenhouse down, catching him, and grabbing for Rittenhouse's rifle...Or beating Rittenhouse with a skateboard on the head, or pointing a loaded Glock automatic at Rittenhouse's head are criminal activities. Deadly criminal activities.
So you support pedophile's anal raping 9 year-old boys? Do you support men strangling women? That's what the people you call "victims" did. The last thing the three criminals did was attempt to murder Rittenhouse. They died like they lived. The pedophile died reaching for a minor.
Maybe you should watch the videos before you spout opinions, Timothy Leary?
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I love your long posts. I am going to put you on my buddy list. I do not need a video to see which way the wind blows. Minor crosses state line to attend a Blm gathering in order to make black folks behave. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:09 |
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^ Yeah, not guilty of murder by letter of the law, but definitely guilty of being an extreme dumbass.
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