Lima Regional Final: Genesis v. Jethro Toe

For Peter's Genesis,not Philesis. JT is no slacker.

I could vote either way honestly

but

Tull

Just checked with the Mrs and she give me the green light to purchase the 27 disc Starless box set from KC.

Jethro Toe

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: It's funny how Micky tries to convince people this is about the Pop Genesis, when as a fact it's about Prog Genesis A perfect streak like Trespass>>>>Nursery Cryme>>>>>Foxtrot>>>>>SEBTP>>>>>>The Lamb...Is simply unbeatable.

Well, for me Pink Floyd beats that streak easily, with Dark Side, WYWH, Animals, and yes, I guess I can include Meddle and The Wall too (though I would have to ignore Obscured by Clouds).

dr prog wrote: bhikkhu wrote: dr prog wrote: Tull comfortably. Now that we have all the tull remixes, they have too many strong tracks every year for Genesis to compete with them. I doubt several Genesis fans have the all important tull remixed box sets so they are missing out on half their great tracks Have you ever considered there was a reason a lot of this stuff wasn't released?  Tulls outtakes and b sides are many of their best tracks? 50 of tulls best 100 songs are non album tracks. They weren't on the albums because Ian wanted to produce some commercial radio free songs for each album. That's the only reason I can come up with.

When my Prog addiction started over 25 years ago, Genesis was essential, but over the years JT's discography grows and grows.

For the good old times, Genesis +1.

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: I checked with my wife and she said she hates that noodly crap so I guess no vote for me the rest of the tournament.

i'm hip.

bhikkhu wrote: dr prog wrote: Tull comfortably. Now that we have all the tull remixes, they have too many strong tracks every year for Genesis to compete with them. I doubt several Genesis fans have the all important tull remixed box sets so they are missing out on half their great tracks Have you ever considered there was a reason a lot of this stuff wasn't released?

Tulls outtakes and b sides are many of their best tracks? 50 of tulls best 100 songs are non album tracks. They weren't on the albums because Ian wanted to produce some commercial radio free songs for each album. That's the only reason I can come up with.

oh yeah.  I have no doubt fans of the group love the albums. Arguing tastes is pointless.

Hence the discussion we had previously.  For those NOT fans there really is only one classic album.. Thick as a Brick

Even then for some... like me... it might be a classic. and acknowledge it as such..  but still find it is still boring as hell.   The single taken from it sums the album up well. That is an immediate strike against it in my book.

Try doing that with a Yes album.. that ain't happening. If you can pull a 7 minute bit of it... then what does it say of the rest of it... oh yeah... that it is fluff.. pure and simple.  Listen to a similar attempt to do the same with Close to the Edge... simply unlistenable. That is IMO the difference between well constructed... great Prog rock.. and average to mediocre slapped together prog, with great core (inital idead) and a disposable body ..the fluff.

Which again goes back to what made great Tull great in the first place and what they did so well.. nice simple 4 to 5 minute long songs and without the intellectual bullsh*t.  Very few can do it well,  most fail miserably at it. One reason for the enduring brilliance of Yes is they were one of the few that could do it, yet couched it so abstractly and obtusely you really don't know or care what Jon was singing about.



Edited by micky - January 04 2015 at 15:29