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The Anders
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I forgot about the folk twist, so I was thinking of a possible future poll where the theme is folk music (of any kind). But maybe we can have that too anyway?
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jamesbaldwin
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QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE NEW POLL ON PROTEST SONGS / FOLK SONGS
How many songs should I choose? Please choose two songs with a maximum total length of 12 minutes. You can choose them from the same artist or from two different artists. How are these songs supposed to be? If you can, the ideal would be to choose protest songs. With "protest songs" I mean songs with a social, political, ecological theme etc. You decide when a song can be considered a protest song. You can choose protest songs of any musical genre: folk, rock, jazz, electronic music etc. You can also choose them within Progarchives as long as they are taken from albums with less than 100 ratings. What if I can't find the protest songs? You can participate anyway by inserting folk songs. By folk I mean American, Canadian, English, Irish folk but also the folk or ethnic music of every nation (Japanese, Turkish, Danish, German, Italian etc). This music can be played both with traditional acoustic instruments and with electric or electronic instruments, as long as it is folk. Peter Gabriel's world music is also good, that is songs that combine ethnic music or instruments from different countries (like Scottish bagpipes in a song played with African rhythms). You can also choose folk songs within Progarchives, in these categories: Prog folk, Proto-prog, Prog-related, as long as they are taken from albums with less than 100 ratings. Let's see if I understand: If I participate with U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday and Stormy Six's Stalingrado, featured here in PA in the album "Un biglietto del tram" is it okay? That's fine! They are two protest songs, and the second is allowed because it is taken from a Progarchives album with less than 100 ratings. Wait, let me give you another example. If I participate with Suzanne Vega's Luka and John Denver's Thank God I'm a Country Boy, okay? That's fine! The first is a protest song, because it is about violence against children, the second is an American folk song. Let me give you one more example. If I participate with Have I Told You Lately That I love You, sung by Chieftans and Van Morrison, and with Monte Seris by Bitti's Tenores, featured in Peter Gabriel's World Music (you can listen to it here catalog, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evDP0yOjPkc ) is that okay? That's fine, because they are two folk songs, the first Irish, the second Sardinian (from the Italian island of Sardinia). Well, the second (only vocals) is so hard... ardous... but it's ok! Do I have to put the lyrics of the two songs? Yes, very good, you have to put the lyrics of the two songs, absolutely. Even if they are not protest songs. So instrumental songs are not allowed. Can I post other songs besides the two requests? You can report another one, only one, specifying that it is out of the competition, for the pleasure of making it known to the participants, as long as it is a protest song with the text, and you can get it from wherever you want, even in Progarchives. Thanks, now it's clear. ----- Hope so!!! Edited by jamesbaldwin - January 02 2021 at 12:55 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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jamesbaldwin
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My poll on the "Protest songs / folk songs" will start next monday, January 4th.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Snicolette
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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Lewian
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Great to have you back!
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Shadowyzard
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Howdy, people.
My net connection is limitless now, though a bit slow (which will not pose a problem for Youtube stuff, assumedly). I wasn't aware that unlimited internet connection can be affordable in my whereabouts. We just found a local service provider to provide that. So, I'll most likely rejoin the ride. I can even be a poll creater myself. All the best, Özgür Edited by Shadowyzard - December 22 2020 at 05:21 |
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Easy Money
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^ Fair enough, thanks for your reply.
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jamesbaldwin
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I specify that I have used these three terms
(folk music, ethnic music, world music) to mean the traditional music of each country, including Western music. We are all familiar with American folk and country-western, which we might consider American ethnic music, which is largely derived from English and Irish ethnic music. But If I were to talk about Vietnamese or Moroccan folk music, I wouldn't know at all what to say, I don't know tthem, and then by ethnic music I mean every traditional music from every country, and by world music I mean what Peter Gabriel did with the his record company: write music inspired by ethnic music (traditional, if you prefer) of the most varied countries, and use their musical instruments, and rework it as you see fit, perhaps with electronic instruments or making a hybrid between music / instruments taken from different ethnic music, such as Gabriel did by inserting Scottish bagpipes into African music, and as many artists do now.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Easy Money
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Sorry to nitpick, but those two terms do bug me a bit. |
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The Anders
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I'm not a fan of the terms ethnic music and world music (the latter brings together in one category music types from all over the world that have nothing in common), but apart from that I like the theme. I have plenty of protest songs to choose from. Almost too many as a matter of fact.
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Snicolette
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Interesting twist on the polls, Lorenzo!
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jamesbaldwin
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Dear friends, mathman's poll will be the last of this 2020, and we have plenty of time to listen to the songs and talking about them. On January 2nd I will open my poll, the first of 2021, and as I had announced, it will be a poll on protest songs. However, I thought that protest songs might be too narrow a topic, and so I decided to expand the poll, and I announce the rules now: 1) Think of two songs that added together do not exceed the total duration of 12 minutes 2) The two songs to choose can belong to the same artist (even to the same album) or to two different artists. 3) if you choose songs of the following genres: - ethnic music - world music - folk music iIt is not necessary that they are protest songs, they can deal with any theme. (Ethnic, world or folk music songs are also allowed belonging to groups present in the prog folk, prog relared or proto-prog categories, as long as they belong to albums with less than 100 ratings. The songs published by Jethro Tull, David Bowie, the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, the Who, the Doors are proibited.) 4) If you choose a Protest song (or two protest songs), they can belong to any genre, as long as ... they are protest songs i.e. they deal with a social or political or ecological theme, or concerning rights of the person. I leave it up to you to decide when a song is a protest song. Consider that I don't mean protest songs in a limiting sense. Suzanne Vega Luka's pop song, which deals with violence against children, can be considered a protest song. If you choose a protest song, please write his lyrics. 5) Instrumental songs are not allowed. 6) In conclusion: -I can choose two protest songs, for example an heavy metal song and an electronic song. -I can choose an ethnic song (or a prog folk, or a world music song) that speak about love, and a protest song of any genre. - I can choose no protest songs but two songs of ethnic, world, folk music that I like. 7) We vote for our favorite pair of songs. Edited by jamesbaldwin - December 16 2020 at 13:26 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Shadowyzard
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^ Thanks Raffaella.
Happy holidays to you and Micky too. Also whoever has "holidays". I'm wishing that none of you will be visited by the Covid-19 a****le. |
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Thanks Raff. Wish you and Micky happy holidays and great New Year. 2021 has to be better, no?
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mathman0806
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I've been busy and hadn't been active much for the past week, but things are slowing down for me, so I'll have something up today. |
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jamesbaldwin
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for you for micky
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Thank you Raff. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and Micky. You are always welcome here and hopefully we'll be seeing you soon in the interactive thread and also elsewhere. Stay safe and healthy.
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Lewian
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Hey Raff, thanks for this!
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jamesbaldwin
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Mathman, are you ready?
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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