Should marijuana be legalized?

"My final point about alchohol, about drugs, about Pornography...What business is it of your's what I do, read, buy, see or take into my body as long as I don't harm another human being whilst on this planet? And for those of you having a little moral dilemna on how to answer this, I'll answer for you. NONE OF YOUR f**kING BUSINESS Take that to the bank, cash it and take it on a vacation outta my f**king life."

Bill Hicks

Isn't that how the American Indians interacted with their spiritual world?

The T wrote: Going to church under the influence? Now that's some interesting way of trying to get in contact with your creator... (or to try to be able to bear the usually atrocious sermon)...

I was thinking the latter but I suppose its worth a shot


Edited by JJLehto - August 25 2010 at 13:22

Alright alright chillax

No idea if Teo was getting at this...but how long should that be? Some people are capable of driving well enough while others can't
You said 2 days? That would indeed be a problem
What if someone wants me to go Church Mike? I'll need to blaze to make it through that....
but then I'll have to drive there still. Can't do it 2 days before...




Edited by JJLehto - August 25 2010 at 13:15

^^ All you proved is that you read something into my post that wasn't there. I was specifically saying "until you're allowed to drive a car". I didn't say "until you can think that you can drive a car".

Edited by Mr ProgFreak - August 25 2010 at 13:07

Mr ProgFreak wrote: The T wrote: Mr ProgFreak wrote: Yes. One big problem though is driving under the influence of it. I've never used it myself, but apparently when you do you'll have to wait a couple of days until you're allowed to drive a car. That will certainly be a problem, even if it is legalized. It's obvious you've never used it. Years ago (like 10) I actually did the stupid thing of driving a few times under the green influence and I can tell it's much more doable than under alcohol influence.And you don't need two days to get your head straight. You can be driving (properly) again in 6 hours...  It's incredibly stupid and irresponsible to drive under the influence of marihuana though... I'm not supporting it. I'm just saying you have your facts wrong.  I don't care about whether you feel like you can still drive under the "green influence" - and neither would the cops. Just saying.

The T wrote: Mr ProgFreak wrote: Yes. One big problem though is driving under the influence of it. I've never used it myself, but apparently when you do you'll have to wait a couple of days until you're allowed to drive a car. That will certainly be a problem, even if it is legalized. It's obvious you've never used it. Years ago (like 10) I actually did the stupid thing of driving a few times under the green influence and I can tell it's much more doable than under alcohol influence.And you don't need two days to get your head straight. You can be driving (properly) again in 6 hours...  It's incredibly stupid and irresponsible to drive under the influence of marihuana though... I'm not supporting it. I'm just saying you have your facts wrong.

I don't care about whether you feel like you can still drive under the "green influence" - and neither would the cops. Just saying.

Henry Plainview wrote: GY!BE wrote: I vote yes because you can die of drinking too much water too fast...yes it has already happened...but you absolutly CANNOT die from marijuana...the lethal dose is 15 000 join in 20 minutes so...do the math... And also it is less phisycally addictive than coffe and also less toxic. It would be fair to keep marijuana illegal if we put water illegal too. However, a healthy person dying of water intoxication is very close to being physically impossible, and a reasonable quantity of marijuana is a hell of a lot worse for you than water, so your comparison is invalid. KoS wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: On the one hand, I don't really care, although I still think you're stupid for doing it. On the other hand, I don't want any more smoke in public places, but I guess the strength of marjuana would prevent people from smoking it like cigarettes. Your naivety  is cute. I don't like being around smoke and I think that enjoying yourself by altering the chemicals in your brain is lazy. You can call me what you want.

But it makes me feel good, Henry. It makes me feel better than paying bills does. Paying bills should be illegalized, and marijuana legalized in her place.

For the sake of argumentation, listening to music is just as easy as smoking weed, so why isn't it lazy? I mean, everything you do alters the chemicals in your body, some way or another. The air you breathe, your emotions being mere fluctuations of chemicals.

So, really, it's all lazy. I can understand if you personally don't like it. Personally, I don't like lots of stuff.

Not that I am trying to argue a point. at heart, I'm a circumstantialist, and am indifferent to all things in terms of personal opinion. I just do what I feel, and talk lots o' sh*t on account of I wanna.

CPicard wrote: Rocktopus wrote: CPicard wrote: The Sleepwalker wrote: CPicard wrote: I voted "no", and I would always vote "no" about any idea of legalizing any drugs. I already support the "fight" against tobacco and alcoholism. A few days ago, a friend of mine explained me why he was against this legalization: as long as marijuana is forbidden, its users would keep with this "grass" and would be less likely to try hard drugs. I'm not sure his theory is correct, but that would be an idea I could throw in the discussion. As far as I know the Netherlands have relatively less hard drug addicts than the US. I'm not 100% sure though. As I said, it's the idea of this friend of mine. I'm not sure things work this way. Stop listening to your friend. he has no idea what he is talking about. and: Try and get some knowledge first, and then form an opinion. In fact, my opinion is already "formed" for a long time: I saw some acquaintances smoking marijuana / haschich / kif AND drinking a lot, sniffing cocaïne or talking about the places where to buy ecstasy pills.

^Oh wow, you did? And that's the reason for your "opinion" on legalization? What can I say; your way of argumenting isn't all that impressive.


Edited by Rocktopus - August 25 2010 at 12:40

Hokai, so, I want it legalized for personal convenience. Hokai, so I don't believe it should be legal/illegal. I'm indifferent. My vote is based entirely on self interest.

Hokai, so I don't smoke, currently. I used to, often, but quit without any real problems. I'd like to, again, if it were legal and really cheap. I hate paying for drugs, but sometimes, they're so damn good. I mean that high you get when you're toasted off your ass and you mix it with some vodka shots, and they.....

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