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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2008 at 13:03
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

The system should work though - you pay a fixed price each month, the meter's read, they work out how much you've paid & how much you've used & your account's either in credit (when you can claim a refund) or in debit (when you pay the difference).
 
...I take it you've never tried to claim a refund. Once those bCensoredds have your money they are loathed to give it back ... the entire industry is supported by unsolicited loans from the hapless consumer.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2008 at 12:32

^^^

If I ever get in any trouble I'm going to give you a call Jim!  Scared   LOLLOL

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2008 at 12:24
The system should work though - you pay a fixed price each month, the meter's read, they work out how much you've paid & how much you've used & your account's either in credit (when you can claim a refund) or in debit (when you pay the difference).

The problem comes when they 'estimate' how much you're going to use over the coming year - if I used 61% more central heating, my ing windows would melt.

Now that's bad enough for people like Vicky and I, but when it comes to vunerable people like say, Rachel's mother or pensioners who may be watching every expenditure, it goes beyond outrageous to borderline criminal.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2008 at 12:17
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

OK

I've been paying £55 per month to my gas supplier; they recently read my meter & the new statement confirmed that gas usage vs payments came to a balance of £0.09 - perfect - I'm paying exactly what I need to.

Not so.

The thieving s now want to increase my monthly payment from £55 to £96; an increase of over 61% - this in the face of industry wide opinion that the retail cost of gas per unit is to fall sharply over the next 6 months - I say again: THIEVING s!



What a terrible system.  All my services (electricity, gas, water) are billed strictly based on usage.  Why pay silly inflated estimates when you have meters?  Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2008 at 12:14
Whoa!

That is ing outrageous.

Have you tried the old "threatening to move to an alternate supplier" tack? I've found this can be quite effective when requesting lowering of extortionate monthly charges??

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2008 at 08:43
ok get this one Jim,

My mum who is an elderly widow living alone recently (3 years ago) had mainline gas fitted into her cottage which is exactly 2up, 2down mid terrace. For2 years she paid £28 per month for combined gas and electric. In March of this year they put it to £32. which she accepted ok.
In September they increased her monthly payments to a WHOPPING £106.38 per month. Shocked    She was in the middle of her first bout of chemo at the time, so my sister tried to deal with it for her, we are STILL waiting for it to be sorted out. But APPARENTLY if you pay by monthly direct debit although generally your gas/electric cost is up to 10% cheaper than the standard bill payer, it is ENTIRELY LEGAL for the provider to set the monthly debit at WHATEVER THEY WISH, and trying to get money back from them is almost impossible. Mum's health means that she is too sick and dizzy to read a book or watch TV, and pretty much goes to bed when it gets dark as she's pretty frail. My sister, who is local to her, brings her cooked food some days, other days she might just have fruit or toast (she's pretty sick) she has one radiator in the lounge and one in her bedroom. no more.  £106.38 a month?????  That's robbery of the worst kind. We are all helping out where we can and hope we can sort it out as soon as possible, in the meantime she is under stress that she really could do without right now.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2008 at 08:16
OK

I've been paying £55 per month to my gas supplier; they recently read my meter & the new statement confirmed that gas usage vs payments came to a balance of £0.09 - perfect - I'm paying exactly what I need to.

Not so.

The thieving s now want to increase my monthly payment from £55 to £96; an increase of over 61% - this in the face of industry wide opinion that the retail cost of gas per unit is to fall sharply over the next 6 months - I say again: THIEVING s!

How many people don't even look at their gas statements & just carry on paying? How many people are these s ripping off across the country?



Suffice to say, a sternly worded missive has been sent



Did I mention my opinion that I'm being supplied by a bunch of money grabbing, thieving s ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2008 at 13:46
 
'king great. You act responsibly, spend less than you earn then find that your savings are eroding with low interest rate/higher inflation. Needless to say that I have no sympathy for anyone who has gotten themselves into debt. Self infliction I call it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 18:19
Can there be happy rants?
Well, I'm doing one.

Penn State must have finally gotten tired of taking my money, (well I wish).
I bought my books for this semester. Expecting the usual $400-500 it came out to
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 08:27
Classic Dean!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 07:54

^ whenever I've had dealings with people like that it I come away with the desire to change professions to one where I am in control of them... like a surgeon... "Ah yes I know you thought you came in for a relatively simple procedure but you can't get the parts for these older models, so we tightened your nuts and slapped some sealant around your ballcock, it should hold everything in place but what you really need is to replace all the plumbing with modern metric replacements. SOooo anyway, that will be £20,000. Have a nice day and if you have any problems don't hesitate in contacting our approved helpline on... sorry, I'm going to have to ask you not to drip on the carpet."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 07:51
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Andy - re your plumber's incident; I wholeheartedly agree; a few years ago, Vicky and I decided it was time for the old avocado coloured toilet/cistern to go (ah yes, the 1970s, eh? ); that's all we wanted - a plumber to come in for an hour or so tops & replace it with a bog-standard (sorry ) white one.

When we eventually managed to get one to come round to do it, he didn't turn up; nor did the next one we tried... or the next . Eventually one did turn up & to his credit was perfectly friendly & not too overpriced - but he was the fourth one we tried!

Nowadays (luckily) we have friends who are professional plumbers/painters/decorators, and are trustworthy, reliable & knock off £20 from their day-rate for 'mates rates'.

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If you know people who are plumbers, sparkies etc, then you're laughing, otherwise you're at the mercy of cowboys. We are supposed to be over run with Polish plumbers apparently, although I'm not aware of any in my area, and I've had more plumbing work done than I care to remember. I like to think that our Polish friends bring a different work ethic to what they do. After all, they must surely see the gap in the market for 'good plumbers' who dont rob the customer blind. If they fill that gap and undercut their arrogrant British counterparts, they would force the whole industry to get in shape..

..and hey guess what, this companies customer service 'hotline' has been 'cold' all morning. No response at all. Next stop will be trading standards, not that I expect to get anywhere. I think I just feel like upsetting someone!

That said, I'm looking forward to tomorrow. See you there, and I promise I'll not mention plumbers once!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 07:24
Andy - re your plumber's incident; I wholeheartedly agree; a few years ago, Vicky and I decided it was time for the old avocado coloured toilet/cistern to go (ah yes, the 1970s, eh? ); that's all we wanted - a plumber to come in for an hour or so tops & replace it with a bog-standard (sorry ) white one.

When we eventually managed to get one to come round to do it, he didn't turn up; nor did the next one we tried... or the next . Eventually one did turn up & to his credit was perfectly friendly & not too overpriced - but he was the fourth one we tried!

Nowadays (luckily) we have friends who are professional plumbers/painters/decorators, and are trustworthy, reliable & knock off £20 from their day-rate for 'mates rates'.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 07:18
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

And now, if you please, an adaptation of 'The Curse Of Milhaven' on the subject of excessive street furniture

 

'mkay...

 

"I live in a town called Millhaven And it's small and it's mean and it's cold But if you come around just as the sun goes down You can watch the whole town turn to gold It's around about then that I used to go a-roaming Singing La la la la La la la lie All God's children they gotta slow down 'cos there's a really nasty bend coming up in a school zone under a low bridge where badgers, deer and frogs are crossing and the road can become slippery when wet to the extent that there is the risk of flooding so kill your speed not a doddering pedestrian whose had to walk on the road because some dunderhead in a 4x4 has parked on the pavement and I only ran him over because my view was obsucured by excessive street furniture....

 

Yeah, everything is groovy and everything is fine Singing La la la la La la la lie"


I thangyou...

Hmmm - that gives me an idea...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 05:27
Plumbers!!

No offence to any prog plumbers, of course..

Last Friday a cocky, arrogant and uncommunicative plumber turned up at my house to fix a problem with my kitchen mixer tap. After tightening some bolts and squirting some sealant around the base of my tap assembly, he charged me £104 (for 20 mins work) then f****d off! I was outraged at the price, of course, but at least the problem 'appeared' to be solved. Two days later the problem re-occured, so I called to arrange another appointment and to express my dissatisfaction at the work he'd done. The t0sser on the phone then had a go at me for complaining about one of his precious engineers!! I made another appointment for the following day. The plumber didn't turn up. I had now taken the best part of two days off work waiting for these people, and they have taken money off me for nothing! I have just written to their customer service dept and demanded a refund! Yeah right, I guess I can ing go and sing for that.

What is it with customer service in this country? I seem to remember a time when some pride was taken in work. A time when the customer came first; acknowledged as valuable to the business, but especially in industries like plumbing there seems to be this attitude of 'if you dont like it, you know what you can do' It makes me sick. Together with a double glazing company and a garage the last week has just been dealing with an orderly queue of w*****s, one after another. It makes me sick! There must be more to life than just dealing with sh!t, surely!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 04:29
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:


And now, if you please, an adaptation of 'The Curse Of Milhaven' on the subject of excessive street furniture
 
'mkay...
 
"I live in a town called Millhaven
And it's small and it's mean and it's cold
But if you come around just as the sun goes down
You can watch the whole town turn to gold
It's around about then that I used to go a-roaming
Singing La la la la La la la lie
All God's children they gotta slow down 'cos there's a really nasty bend coming up in a school zone under a low bridge where badgers, deer and frogs are crossing and the road can become slippery when wet to the extent that there is the risk of flooding so kill your speed not a doddering pedestrian whose had to walk on the road because some dunderhead in a 4x4 has parked on the pavement and I only ran him over because my view was obsucured by excessive street furniture....
 
Yeah, everything is groovy and everything is fine
Singing La la la la La la la lie"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2008 at 03:55
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

"This is a ranting room
A room in which to rant
While all the men and women plant.
This is a ranting room
But I won't be ranting soon.

"Father why are all the children ranting?
They are merely crying son.
Oh, are they merely crying father?
Yes, true ranting is yet to come."


(with apologies to Mr Cave Embarrassed)


Inspired, Dean.

And now, if you please, an adaptation of 'The Curse Of Milhaven' on the subject of excessive street furniture

Edited by Jim Garten - August 14 2008 at 03:56

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 15:42
Whoever invented CApS lOCK SHoulD BE SHOT! I mean what the f$#k?
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