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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 15:11
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Rush. I never understood all the fuss about them. Good musicians, though not as exceptional as their fans try to make them, but the music is nothing special at all.

I notice you added this as an edit. Not only is it churlish.....after all, did I or anyone criticize Magmas musicianship? Not only that, but what makes YOU...........a better judge than Rush fans?

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Excuse me? I fully stated they are good musicians. I just don't buy that Neil Peart is the überdrummer who is miles ahead of any others. He is a very good drummer, but there are several other drummers who are equally good. This is what I want to put into perspective, and nothing else. Many bands have great musicians, not just Rush; that is all I wanted to state. Got it now?

Many bands have great musicians? Wow ain't that controversial! Do I get it? Sorry...I'm too feeble to undrrstand your big words....Cry

I couldn't really give a damn about your opinion.,
GOT IT?

You obviously have not understood a word I wrote. I was not even criticizing the musicians of Rush. The only thing I criticize is the behaviour of their fans. I have nothing against people liking certain musicians; everyone has their favourite one, and that's fine with me. I have my personal favorites too. But I am not declaring them to be über-musicians. The musicians of Rush are excellent; I never doubted that. So where is your problem?

I apologise. I should have kept my annoyance in check. 


BTW......I understood...don't patronise me please.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 15:10
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

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Camel, Caravan, and Gong...boring blah!
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Ok so you don't like them but that knife turning at the end!  To say GONG are boring (Cotton Buds needed) NEVER boring NEVER conventional (Unlike most modern prog and a lot of old).
 
Ouch
 
(Does Rick Wakeman count?  LOL)

I have tried so hard to give all of them a chance over and over. Camel I can somewhat get into but it would never be a play for enjoyment. And there is boring unconventional music. Gong happens to be one of those. Cry
Never mind I would give up.  Enjoyment being a pretty important product of music!  There is plenty more good music out there to explore,,  One day you may find you appreciate GONG - I'll have to think about a boring unconventional band?  Confused Big smile Floating Anarchieee!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 15:08
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Rush. I never understood all the fuss about them. Good musicians, though not as exceptional as their fans try to make them, but the music is nothing special at all.

I notice you added this as an edit. Not only is it churlish.....after all, did I or anyone criticize Magmas musicianship? Not only that, but what makes YOU...........a better judge than Rush fans?

Dead

Excuse me? I fully stated they are good musicians. I just don't buy that Neil Peart is the überdrummer who is miles ahead of any others. He is a very good drummer, but there are several other drummers who are equally good. This is what I want to put into perspective, and nothing else. Many bands have great musicians, not just Rush; that is all I wanted to state. Got it now?

Many bands have great musicians? Wow ain't that controversial! Do I get it? Sorry...I'm too feeble to undrrstand your big words....Cry

I couldn't really give a damn about your opinion.,
GOT IT?

You obviously have not understood a word I wrote. I was not even criticizing the musicians of Rush. The only thing I criticize is the behaviour of their fans. I have nothing against people liking certain musicians; everyone has their favourite one, and that's fine with me. I have my personal favorites too. But I am not declaring them to be über-musicians. The musicians of Rush are excellent; I never doubted that. So where is your problem?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 15:04
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Rush. I never understood all the fuss about them. Good musicians, though not as exceptional as their fans try to make them, but the music is nothing special at all.

I notice you added this as an edit. Not only is it churlish.....after all, did I or anyone criticize Magmas musicianship? Not only that, but what makes YOU...........a better judge than Rush fans?

Dead

Excuse me? I fully stated they are good musicians. I just don't buy that Neil Peart is the überdrummer who is miles ahead of any others. He is a very good drummer, but there are several other drummers who are equally good. This is what I want to put into perspective, and nothing else. Many bands have great musicians, not just Rush; that is all I wanted to state. Got it now?

No way! He's not the best ever? LOL  
Of course there are other great drummers. Dave Weckl and Gavin Harrison are two drummers, IMO, that are much better than Peart, but I still love his style of playing.

Rush is a love 'em or hate 'em band. It is what it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 15:02
Rush
Yes
VdGG
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:59
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Camel, Caravan, and Gong...boring blah!
Shocked
 
Ok so you don't like them but that knife turning at the end!  To say GONG are boring (Cotton Buds needed) NEVER boring NEVER conventional (Unlike most modern prog and a lot of old).
 
Ouch
 
(Does Rick Wakeman count?  LOL)

I have tried so hard to give all of them a chance over and over. Camel I can somewhat get into but it would never be a play for enjoyment. And there is boring unconventional music. Gong happens to be one of those. Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:59
I'm not a huge fan of Kraftwerk either, I started out opposed to Electronic Prog, but I have come to love TD and Schulze. I have never liked neo prog, I was thinking of giving it a try soon. I had to work at some bands before I could appreciate them, like Magma, but some clicked right away, I got into Canterbury very easily. I have Been listening to the Radio Gnome Invisible trilogy pretty exclusively for the last couple days. Thumbs Up

I think that the hardest part of getting into a band is that you already come with preconceptions that can limit the extent of your enjoyment. The best thing to do is to try and forget everything and try to re-experience the music as if it's the first time you have heard it without any prior knowledge. It's hard to like Magma when you think "Oh yeah, that one band that chants like a bunch of baboons on helium."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:58
Deleted by me again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:53
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Rush. I never understood all the fuss about them. Good musicians, though not as exceptional as their fans try to make them, but the music is nothing special at all.

I notice you added this as an edit. Not only is it churlish.....after all, did I or anyone criticize Magmas musicianship? Not only that, but what makes YOU...........a better judge than Rush fans?

Dead

Excuse me? I fully stated they are good musicians. I just don't buy that Neil Peart is the überdrummer who is miles ahead of any others. He is a very good drummer, but there are several other drummers who are equally good. This is what I want to put into perspective, and nothing else. Many bands have great musicians, not just Rush; that is all I wanted to state. Got it now?


Edited by BaldFriede - June 12 2009 at 14:54


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:50
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Rush. I never understood all the fuss about them. Good musicians, though not as exceptional as their fans try to make them, but the music is nothing special at all.

I notice you added this as an edit. Not only is it churlish.....after all, did I or anyone criticize Magmas musicianship? Not only that, but what makes YOU...........a better judge than Rush fans?

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A BaldFriede or BaldJean visit to PA wouldn't be complete without this comment.  Take it for what it is worth and move on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:50
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Camel, Caravan, and Gong...boring blah!
Shocked
 
Ok so you don't like them but that knife turning at the end!  To say GONG are boring (Cotton Buds needed) NEVER boring NEVER conventional (Unlike most modern prog and a lot of old).
 
Ouch
 
(Does Rick Wakeman count?  LOL)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:47
The ones for me are Marillion & The Flower Kings ...I have absolutely no idea what all of the praise is about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:47
I've opened myself, in the last two years, to almost every genre (except metal). I usually appreciate and dislike accordingly, without thinking too much that something I don't like is immensely praised.

I do have a grudge with ELP however, and while I like Yes' classics (minus Close To The Edge, which isn't on the podium of the galaxy, not even by a long shot), they're cold in my top preferences.

I solved my differences with Zappa it seems, as I can fully enjoy some of his best stuff, as of late.

The two bands left to be mentioned would thus be Kraftwerk (here I'm really antipathic) and Deep Purple (never clicked enough for me, especially after the early 70s).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:43
Deleted by Snow dog...cuz I don't like it anymore.( don't worry its widely quoted later!)


Edited by Snow Dog - November 09 2009 at 07:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:40
For me it's Magma.........but also a number of neo-prog and prog-metal bands (Pendragon, Arena, Jadis, Symphony X for a couple examples).

Strangely, I saw Magma twice at Nearfest.  The first time I appreciated their performance, but can't say I really enjoyed it much.  The second time I thought they were fantastic.  After both times I tried some of their studio and live recorded material.  Both times they didn't appeal to me.  Very strange.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:38
Camel, Caravan, and Gong...boring blah!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:32
Rush. I never understood all the fuss about them. Good musicians, though not as exceptional as their fans try to make them, but the music is nothing special at all.

Edited by BaldFriede - June 12 2009 at 14:38


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:27
VdGG and Dream Theater . Just can't get it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:26
For me IQ, Flower Kings and Porcupine Tree.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:25
Magma, VDGG, and per recent Shred Room discussion, The Mars Volta.
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