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addictedtoprog
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Posted: July 20 2014 at 02:18 |
Selling England By The Pound-Greatest symphonic prog album of alltime..
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richardh
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Posted: July 20 2014 at 02:05 |
rogerthat wrote:
Mirror Image wrote:
Horizons wrote:
I'm not sure how having everyone going out to buy their albums at the moment relates to how overrated a band is in prog circles. Though i'm sure during their pop period the situation you described happened to an extent.
Don't get so defensive when someone makes a remark that disagrees with your opinion in the smallest way. He didn't even come off in a troll way or in a barbed manner. It's okay to care about a band deeply or even defend against a statement (disagreeing thoughts does happen!), but if your going to erupt into flames the second it happens, i suggest you not read threads discussing that particular band. |
I understand, but, at the same time, all I did was ask a simple question and I still haven't received a reply yet, which isn't surprising.
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Indeed it shouldn't surprise you because if you jump to call something BS without waiting for the other side to attempt to clarify, nobody should indeed bother responding. You think it's BS,big deal! Genesis is not your personal possession, you know. |
Yep agreed.I would also add that I generally look at the forum once a day so I'm not going to respond immediately to every question thrown at me.
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richardh
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Posted: July 20 2014 at 02:02 |
Mirror Image wrote:
richardh wrote:
Nice band but a little overrated |
Complete BS IMHO. How are they overrated? I think they deserve all the accolades that can be given to them. |
Chill out!
No band is untouchable. However I was going for a tad ironic comment. People shouldn't get upset over opinions. Genesis make very listenable music and occasionally hit some massive heights but not everything they did was brilliant. I'm not just talking about the pop years but even during their most vaunted period I feel they lacked consistency and I struggle to share the same unquestioning love for SEBTP and LLDOB that presumably you and others have. ATOTT is perhaps the one exception for me. That is a beautiful album but then just about every band has at least one beautiful album in them.
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 23:52 |
Mirror Image wrote:
Horizons wrote:
I'm not sure how having everyone going out to buy their albums at the moment relates to how overrated a band is in prog circles. Though i'm sure during their pop period the situation you described happened to an extent.
Don't get so defensive when someone makes a remark that disagrees with your opinion in the smallest way. He didn't even come off in a troll way or in a barbed manner. It's okay to care about a band deeply or even defend against a statement (disagreeing thoughts does happen!), but if your going to erupt into flames the second it happens, i suggest you not read threads discussing that particular band. |
I understand, but, at the same time, all I did was ask a simple question and I still haven't received a reply yet, which isn't surprising.
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Indeed it shouldn't surprise you because if you jump to call something BS without waiting for the other side to attempt to clarify, nobody should indeed bother responding. You think it's BS,big deal! Genesis is not your personal possession, you know.
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Horizons
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 21:03 |
Well i responded to your second part
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 20:57 |
Horizons wrote:
I'm not sure how having everyone going out to buy their albums at the moment relates to how overrated a band is in prog circles. Though i'm sure during their pop period the situation you described happened to an extent.
Don't get so defensive when someone makes a remark that disagrees with your opinion in the smallest way. He didn't even come off in a troll way or in a barbed manner. It's okay to care about a band deeply or even defend against a statement (disagreeing thoughts does happen!), but if your going to erupt into flames the second it happens, i suggest you not read threads discussing that particular band. |
I understand, but, at the same time, all I did was ask a simple question and I still haven't received a reply yet, which isn't surprising.
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 20:46 |
Never heard of this Genesis that everyone here is talking about
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Horizons
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 20:40 |
I'm not sure how having everyone going out to buy their albums at the moment relates to how overrated a band is in prog circles. Though i'm sure during their pop period the situation you described happened to an extent.
Don't get so defensive when someone makes a remark that disagrees with your opinion in the smallest way. He didn't even come off in a troll way or in a barbed manner. It's okay to care about a band deeply or even defend against a statement (disagreeing thoughts does happen!), but if youre going to erupt into flames the second it happens, i suggest you not read threads discussing that particular band.
Edited by Horizons - July 19 2014 at 21:02
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 20:35 |
Barbu wrote:
richardh wrote:
Nice band but a little overrated |
qft |
Another BS post. Again, I'll ask: how are Genesis overrated? Tell me how this band has saturated the market and everyone and their brother is going out and buying their albums. Tell me how. If you can't, then just put a sock in it.
Edited by Mirror Image - July 19 2014 at 20:35
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 18:02 |
^ False!
Their pop period? Sure! Their prog period? Well, in prog circles they get the appreciation they deserve, but from the outside-of-prog press and media, and the general public, surely not?
Edited by The Bearded Bard - July 19 2014 at 18:03
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Barbu
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 16:48 |
richardh wrote:
Nice band but a little overrated |
qft
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lazland
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 16:40 |
M27Barney wrote:
..... THE No 1 Symphonic Prog Release of all time - though plenty of people units on this site ARE GOING TO ARGUE THE TOSS..... |
My toss is bigger than your toss
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Mirror Image
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 09:39 |
richardh wrote:
Nice band but a little overrated |
Complete BS IMHO. How are they overrated? I think they deserve all the accolades that can be given to them.
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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richardh
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Posted: July 19 2014 at 03:01 |
Nice band but a little overrated
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 18 2014 at 23:09 |
Nice to hear about your experience with SEBTP. I can sort of relate to it and in a way I can't too. SEBTP, specifically Firth of the fifth, was what got me into prog bigtime so I never had to stint on them, waiting for them to 'click'. But the experience as such was as exciting as how you described it. Maybe a little more, because I didn't know what to expect more and was totally blown away. I don't even like Firth, barring the guitar solo, as much as I used to at that time. Although it's a great album, it's not my favourite Genesis album anymore.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: July 18 2014 at 23:03 |
When I was a teen Genesis were one of the bands to get me excited about prog. My big three were probably YES, GENESIS and King Crimson. These were the bands I was most excited about at that time. To a lesser extent I liked the Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, RUSH, ELP and Jethro Tull. By the time I was into prog I had almost completely forgotten about Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Rolling Stones and the Beatles and didn't consider them prog at all. As for Genesis I first got into their popular stuff then worked my way back and was of course more impressed with the older stuff as I didn't consider much of the later stuff to be prog.
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AreYouHuman
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Posted: July 18 2014 at 22:16 |
Did it feel like a kiss?
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Silly human race! Yes is for everybody!
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Mirror Image
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Posted: July 18 2014 at 22:14 |
Welcome to the magical world of Genesis! Isn't it a wonderful feeling when this band 'clicks' with you? Genesis are my absolute favorite band of all-time. From Trespass up to Wind & Wuthering is, for me, some of the greatest rock music ever recorded. There's just something incredible when Gabriel, Banks, Hackett, Rutherford, and Collins create music. I would highly suggest trying Foxtrot or Nursery Cryme next. I don't think you're 'ready' yet for The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, but don't ignore this masterpiece. It's simply amazing from start to finish. A lot of people prefer disc one to disc two, but I love them both equally. Happy listening!
Edited by Mirror Image - July 18 2014 at 22:15
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Chris S
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Posted: July 18 2014 at 20:33 |
Genesis? Never heard of them....
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 18 2014 at 20:25 |
M27Barney wrote:
..... THE No 1 Symphonic Prog Release of all time - though plenty of people units on this site ARE GOING TO ARGUE THE TOSS..... |
their argument would be incorrect.....
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