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Earthmover
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Posted: November 23 2013 at 12:22 |
proggman wrote:
But the 80's wasn't so fun because prog wasn't popular.
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well there's plenty of other great music you know
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proggman
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Posted: November 23 2013 at 12:10 |
But the 80's wasn't so fun because prog wasn't popular.
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lazygecko
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Posted: November 23 2013 at 09:07 |
I think music should be fun. The 80's was plenty of fun. The whole image/performance factor is pretty much a non-factor for me which I don't care about, but I think it does bleed over into the musicians' attitude towards the music. I liked the whole ridiculous glam metal stuff, and I think it only went bad once the labels consolidated it completely around power ballads. The whole grunge/altrock movement in the 90's that seemed to rise as a response to that pretty much sounded as dull and boring as they presented themselves.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: November 23 2013 at 08:40 |
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: November 23 2013 at 01:50 |
stonebeard wrote:
Just because apparently no one here like 80s pop music I thought I'd say I like it more than 60s and 70s pop. All decades have their cringeworthy stuff, though. And prog music in the 70s was just plain goofy. Good musicianship, sure, but the lyrics and pomp and costumes was pretty laughable. I challenge anyone to say the 80s were any more embarrassing than that.
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So you're saying this... ...Is more laughable and ridiculous than this... ...I disagree.
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rogerthat
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Posted: November 23 2013 at 00:43 |
^^^ I'd much rather Stevie Wonder than any pop artist of the 80s. And I don't find anything laughable about either the lyrics or the costumes of Pink Floyd so I disagree on both counts. I do agree that there was some bad pop in the 70s too and some of 70s prog, even the classics, did have,er, strange lyrics and all that. But at least 70s pop tended to be tolerably boring, well, at least until mid 70s anyway when they began to favour robotic drums. I cannot say that robotic sounding drums of 80s are objectively bad but I certainly don't like them. If I like a song with those sort of drums, it is generally in spite of and not because of them. Script for a Jester's Tears would probably sound a bit more fluid without Pointer's stiff performance.
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 22:01 |
Just because apparently no one here like 80s pop music I thought I'd say I like it more than 60s and 70s pop. All decades have their cringeworthy stuff, though. And prog music in the 70s was just plain goofy. Good musicianship, sure, but the lyrics and pomp and costumes was pretty laughable. I challenge anyone to say the 80s were any more embarrassing than that.
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 21:48 |
If 80s music means just any bands/albums from the 80s, there's plenty that I like. King Crimson, Talking Heads, Kate Bush, Donald Fagen, Prefab Sprout, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden (at least, before they got dense), Peter Gabriel, Marillion, Rush, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Police, so on and so forth. Not relevant from a Western music point of view, but 80s was the most prolific phase of my all time favourite composer Ilayaraja so there's no way I cannot like the 80s. But if by 80s is meant stuff like Power of Love/Still Loving You/Careless Whisper, no, I don't like that kind of music AT ALL. By the end of the 80s, the influence of R&B/jazz on pop music seems to have diminished and replaced by a general, formulaic 'power' sound which I don't really like - the one you hear on My Haaarth weel go wonnn, for instance.
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 15:35 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
'Goth' stuff. Cocteaus, Bauhaus, DCD, there was plenty of interest in the 80s (certainly the 1stt half) but like just about all decades the good stuff rarely reared its ugly head in the charts or on daytime radio. ^ I very much liked Altered Images at the time. THey started life a Post Punk Pop band. Championed by John Peel and the first album was produced by Steve Severin (Banshee). Happy Birthday aint that bad really. But they got Record Companied and lost the interesting. |
Yeah I thought about Bauhaus too. Those guys were constantly on the radio station at my university, but frankly I got a little tired of them because they were overplayed. Altered Images was an okay band, I did like "Happy Birthday" and their version of "Song Sung Blue". But like you said they got sucked into the 80s A&R bulls**t and I pretty much lost interest. Fetchin' Bones is another one I just thought of, and also Green on Red, Bo-Deans and Jason & the Scorchers. All of them blended blues rock, a little post-punk and a little country. The Scorchers versions of "Lost Highway" and "19th Nervous Breakdown" were awesome!
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 13:52 |
'Goth' stuff. Cocteaus, Bauhaus, DCD, there was plenty of interest in the 80s (certainly the 1stt half) but like just about all decades the good stuff rarely reared its ugly head in the charts or on daytime radio. ^ I very much liked Altered Images at the time. THey started life a Post Punk Pop band. Championed by John Peel and the first album was produced by Steve Severin (Banshee). Happy Birthday aint that bad really. But they got Record Companied and lost the interesting.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 13:32 |
Can't believe Chris S mentioned Martha & the Muffins. I thought I was the only one left on Earth who has all their albums. Total dance music but they were fun. Come to think of it that encompasses a whole lot of 80s music. Good music from the 80s: - R.E.M. - the Police - Sonic Youth - X - Joe Jackson - Concrete Blonde - Nick Lowe / Rockpile Awful music from the 80s (not an exhaustive list by any means): - Feargal Sharkey - Kajagoogoo - Chris DeBurgh - Soft Cell, OMD, Ultravox, Spandau Ballet - really synthpop in general - Huey Lewis & the News - Altered Images (Clare Grogan was adorable but especially when she wasn't singing) I think the 80s get a bad rap for MTV and for the crass pop-culture commercialism that helped force progressive and other good music into the shadows for so many years. But there were some decent bands and artists that managed to thrive anyway. Somewhere in my old photo albums there's a picture of me and some friends in my first apartment. On the wall are posters of CSN&Y, Boy George, and a movie poster for The Wall. And you can see a copy of Greg Kihn on the turntable, which is sitting on a crate filled with cassettes. That pretty much describes the 80s for me...
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 11:56 |
I am interested in seeing people list 80's jazz fusion that retains the more daring and complex elements from the 70's. I see a lot of parallels in the history of fusion with that of prog rock. By the 80's many of the big acts either faded off or switched to a much more pop-accessible smooth jazz style. I actually really like a lot of it from the 80's, especially Paul Hardcastle's mixture of jazz solos and harmonies with electronic dance at the time. But still I lament the loss of the more proggy elements.
The only one I can think off is Jean Luc Ponty.
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 21:29 |
There are things I like and don't like of the 80's. It might have been a time in which prog (my favourite musical genre) got in a lot of trouble and had to reorganize itself, and indeed it was the end for prog as it was known in the 70's. But we already had the 70's, so it's good that something new came. I still don't know so much prog from the 80's, but there's some good stuff. Also, there was a lot of pop wich I find really good and enjoyable (and also some pop which I really don't like so much). And there's metal and hard rock, which also had some really important releases during this decade (and which I don't know so well yet either). So, in the end, I guess I can say that I do like music in the 80's.
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 19:03 |
octopus-4 wrote:
verslibre wrote:
In spite of the "80s stigma" (due mostly to lots of crappy/silly new romantic & hair metal bands, though there's always a grey area), that decade had/has tons of great music, especially when it comes to progressive-electronic. |
Do you mean the tons of movie soundtracks released by Tangerine Dream? Neither far comparable to their pink period, IMO. |
It was a different era for the band. If you're a fan of Johannes Schmoelling, chances are the '80-'85 albums are likely your favorite. I do like their film scores from that period, especially Thief, Wavelength, The Keep, Firestarter and Heartbreakers, but they recorded, IMO, some of their best music, to be found on albums like Tangram, Exit, Logos, White Eagle, Poland and Le Parc.
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 17:10 |
i initially chose yes, but in all honesty, idrk. I mean, i like several bands and songs from this period, but it put all the damn prog aside like it means nothing to them anything. That a shame indeed...
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 17:00 |
Despite protestations to the contrary, I believe we all know what the OP means by "80s Music" -- Duran Duran, Frankie Goes to Toledo, all that Johnny Hates Jazz stuff. And my answer is "Yes", I like it.
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 16:26 |
dr prog wrote:
I like some rock music up to 83 or 84. Prog related stuff but none of that crappy dream theatre or marillion. Split enz were cool for their time |
Most people have no idea based on their 80's output but Split Enz first album was actually a wonderful prog album from '75 called "Mental Notes". I love playing it for people and asking them to guess who it is...you can easily recognize the voice of Timothy Finn but put in a prog environment no one has guessed it was Split Enz yet
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 16:08 |
Some of my favorite albums of all-time came from the '80s.
Rush - Moving Pictures, Grace Under Pressure Iron Maiden - Killers thru Seventh Son Queensryche - Rage For Order & O:MC Black Sabbath - H&H, Mob Rules Metallica - MOP, Justice Helloween - Keeper pt.1 AC/DC - BIB
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dr prog
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 15:25 |
I like some rock music up to 83 or 84. Prog related stuff but none of that crappy dream theatre or marillion. Split enz were cool for their time
Edited by dr prog - November 18 2013 at 15:29
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: November 18 2013 at 08:06 |
I grew up in the 80's so yeah, I love the music. As a side note, Invisible Touch was probably one of the most important albums (along with the associated videos) in my life time.
I pretty much picked my fashion sense from the videos from that album combined with Miami Vice. I can still be found with a blazer most days.
There was a lot of other great stuff in the 80's as well. Some of my favorites include: Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Howard Jones, Rush, Love and Rockets, Jean-Michel Jarre, Gabriel and a whole bunch of other one or two hit wonders. Viva la Octadeca
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