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Tom Ozric 
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 Posted: February 07 2014 at 04:15 |
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^ 40 YEARS !! Well, I take those ratings as 'kosher' - most titles there are on my 'wants list'. Don't think I can go wrong.
Again, been salivating over the debut - just *adore* it. Starts out great, ends BRILLIANTLY. I doubt they can top the debut (in my world...).
Edited by Tom Ozric - February 13 2014 at 23:44
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BarryGlibb
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Posted: February 07 2014 at 03:57 |
IMHO after 40 years of listening and appreciating them.......
There's the Rub (5*) > Argus (5*) > Live Dates (5*) > New England (4.5*) > Wishbone Ash (4*) > Pilgrimage (4*) = No Smoke Without Fire (4*) > Wishbone Four (3*) > Front Page News (2.5*) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Locked In (1*)
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Posted: February 06 2014 at 07:49 |
 octopus-4 wrote:
There's no context with Argus, but there's a bunch of good songs even on Front Page News which is still wth no votes. Despite the very bad cover sleeve, a song like "Surface to Air" deserves some love IMO. |
yeah, i quite like Front Page News. It deserves some recognition.
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Posted: February 06 2014 at 05:38 |
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yep, the last you said   (contest) |
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 18:43 |
Context - contest ?? 
I am really obsessing over the debut at this stage. Just love it, even their standard 'boogie' tracks kick ass. Side 2 is where it's at for me, I prefer it to Argus.......
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 10:07 |
No context at all.
Argus easily wins the game.
There's the Rub comes as close second.
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AlanB
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 09:05 |
I quite like Jail Bait - and it's still a concert favourite today.
I agree about skipping the last track though.
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 07:13 |
Cactus Choir wrote:
Thought I'd give some love for Pilgrimage. A flawed album but with plenty of strong material. Vas Dis, The Pilgrim, Valediction, Lullabye and Alone are all great with that unique early Ash combination of dual guitar heavy rock plus folk and a bit of jazz. And I love the cover which reflects the mood of the afore-mentioned songs perfectly. The only mis-steps are the two dull generic "boogie" tracks which stand out like a sore thumb IMHO.
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Effectively I'm used to skip the last track.
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 06:53 |
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Thought I'd give some love for Pilgrimage. A flawed album but with plenty of strong material. Vas Dis, The Pilgrim, Valediction, Lullabye and Alone are all great with that unique early Ash combination of dual guitar heavy rock plus folk and a bit of jazz. And I love the cover which reflects the mood of the afore-mentioned songs perfectly. The only mis-steps are the two dull generic "boogie" tracks which stand out like a sore thumb IMHO.
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 05:01 |
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There's no context with Argus, but there's a bunch of good songs even on Front Page News which is still wth no votes. Despite the very bad cover sleeve, a song like "Surface to Air" deserves some love IMO.
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Posted: January 30 2014 at 10:49 |
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I voted for Live Dates, because it was the album that made me familiar with Wishbone Ash. And I'm thankful for that.
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Posted: January 30 2014 at 07:53 |
Wishbone Ash had such a distinctive sound and writing style. It was difficult to run across any other artist in the 70's that sounded anything close to the Ash as they were very original. There was one person though... and that was Danny Kirwan from the early Fleetwood Mac.
Example : Child Of Mine, Bare Trees, Sands Of Time, Dust, and One Sunny Day are structured like the writing of Andy Powell and Martin Turner. It is also very easy to hear Danny Kirwan singing "Time Was" or Martin Turner singing "Bare Trees". "Time Was" is very much like a song Danny Kirwan would have written. Danny Kirwan's guitar playing is a cross between the sound and style of Andy Powell and Ted Turner. It's just really strange and I've observed it over the many years of being a Wishbone Ash fan.
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Posted: January 30 2014 at 07:42 |
BarryGlibb wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
If you notice the piano on "Blind Eye", it gives the song that characteristic of the British Blues Boom era. Wishbone Ash surfaced from that scene around the time when the structure of the British Blues was becoming heavier in sound. Surely not too obvious on Free's s/t , but more so evident on Fire and Water with songs like "Mr. Big". Andy Powell and Ted Turner seemed to be influenced by traditional Folk music. Take the intro to "The Pilgrim" for example, ....there is something very traditional European in the style. The center section of The King Will Come and Leaf and Stream are very traditional sounding like Fairport Convention pieces. |
Andy Powell has stated in the past that he had great respect for Fairport Convention i.e. Richard Thompson and his guitar playing. |
tHANKS for the tip!
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BarryGlibb
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Posted: January 28 2014 at 01:15 |
TODDLER wrote:
If you notice the piano on "Blind Eye", it gives the song that characteristic of the British Blues Boom era. Wishbone Ash surfaced from that scene around the time when the structure of the British Blues was becoming heavier in sound. Surely not too obvious on Free's s/t , but more so evident on Fire and Water with songs like "Mr. Big". Andy Powell and Ted Turner seemed to be influenced by traditional Folk music. Take the intro to "The Pilgrim" for example, ....there is something very traditional European in the style. The center section of The King Will Come and Leaf and Stream are very traditional sounding like Fairport Convention pieces. |
Andy Powell has stated in the past that he had great respect for Fairport Convention i.e. Richard Thompson and his guitar playing.
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Posted: January 27 2014 at 17:47 |
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If you notice the piano on "Blind Eye", it gives the song that characteristic of the British Blues Boom era. Wishbone Ash surfaced from that scene around the time when the structure of the British Blues was becoming heavier in sound. Surely not too obvious on Free's s/t , but more so evident on Fire and Water with songs like "Mr. Big". Andy Powell and Ted Turner seemed to be influenced by traditional Folk music. Take the intro to "The Pilgrim" for example, ....there is something very traditional European in the style. The center section of The King Will Come and Leaf and Stream are very traditional sounding like Fairport Convention pieces.
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 13:03 |
BarryGlibb wrote:
OK, who's the comedian that voted for Locked In?! |
Well taste is taste , but yeah I agree, itīs definitely not their best 
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 13:02 |
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Thereīs the Rub is my favorite, but New England is a favorite too.
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 12:34 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
It wasn't me - honest  - but so far it's the debut that does it for me. I still need to get more from them........I have my eyes on 'Pilgrimage', 'Fourth' and 'There's The Rub'. Then I will start to judge what I prefer most. |
I think you'll like Pilgrimage....similar to the first...imo.
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AlanB
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 10:08 |
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It doesn't fit into the 70s as it was released in 1980 (though recorded in the 70s) - but if you're talking live albums then Live Dates Vol 2 is well worth a spin.
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Posted: January 25 2014 at 08:53 |
The double live albums a bit special , as it reminds me of the time's i saw them at Reading University 75 and the Reading festival the same year . top Live band !!
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